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movingfinger ([personal profile] movingfinger) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2019-09-11 11:18 am

Ask Amy: Three years after the breakup

Dear Amy: I am struggling with heartbreak from three years ago.

Last night, I dreamed about her, where she professed her love for me again. I woke up feeling worse than ever.

Long story short, her parents broke us up because they did not approve of a same-sex relationship (neither did my parents).

I put it all on the line fighting for our love, but she didn't, after her parents broke her phone, threatened to send her to a psych ward and left her locked up in her house.

I waited for more than a year. Then I realized that she had regained access to Facebook and had a new phone, and yet no message to me!

I never got closure, and I was left with a broken heart and long-lasting emotional hurt. I really want to know how someone can do this after saying they love you and want to marry you.

I've thought so many times of messaging her, but I don't know what to do.

Emotionally Destroyed

Emotionally Destroyed: Please do message her. You may not hear what you want to hear, but knowing where she stands should help to provide the closure you seek.

You both had the odds stacked against you, and I agree that this is heartbreaking.
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[personal profile] conuly 2019-09-11 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, yes, and yes.
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[personal profile] cereta 2019-09-11 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
All of this, yes. I really hate the whole "closure" idea a LOT, but I can sort of see the POV of someone who was treated badly wanting a chance to express their feelings. But what happened was not the ex's doing, and whether her continued lack of contact may or may not be her doing, the possibility of contact ending well for either of them is pretty slim.
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[personal profile] cimorene 2019-09-11 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, all of that. I'm having a hard time believing Amy actually read the letter. Wow.
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[personal profile] minoanmiss 2019-09-12 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
/You deserve whatever Amy got paid to write her bullshit not-advice, and I so wish we could get your wisdom to the LW, who sorely needs it (and all possible support).
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[personal profile] ambyr 2019-09-11 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
The sheer lack of empathy for her ex-girlfriend here is a little frightening. "I really want to know how someone can do this after saying they love you"? Well, they can do it because someone else "threatened to send her to a psych ward and left her locked up in her house." And if her ex-girlfriend is still living with/dependent on her parents, messaging her--as Amy suggests--may put her in very real danger of physical harm. If the motivation was "I want to find a way to help her move to a safer place" I could understand the urge, but "I want closure"? No, that's a shitty reason to endanger someone.
Edited 2019-09-11 18:39 (UTC)
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[personal profile] minoanmiss 2019-09-12 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
Word. I don't want to be hard on LW, but aren't they the least bit concerned about their ex's safety?
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[personal profile] kiezh 2019-09-12 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, this. LW knew her ex was in a dangerous, abusive situation, has no idea how far that escalated while she was out of the loop, and what LW is concerned about is "closure"?! And she seems super resentful of her ex, despite clear evidence that the breakup wasn't the ex's choice at all! Just... wow. (In some breakups there are no villains, but in this one... if LW wants a target for that resentment and bitterness, the parents are right there! Being villainous!)

And yeah, social media presence is no reason to assume the danger's over. If LW really cared so much, she'd be asking "how can I contact my ex stealthily to see if she's ok or needs help getting out?" not "how can I guilt-trip my ex for the way her family forcibly separated us?"
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[personal profile] eleanorjane 2019-09-12 12:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. The lack of empathy was evident in the bitterness about 'I kept fighting for our love and she didn't' - well yeah, LW, you weren't the one being abused by their family.
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[personal profile] cahn 2019-09-11 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, I literally read Amy's response as "Please don't message her" because I couldn't imagine anyone giving any other advice!
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[personal profile] feldman 2019-09-11 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Ditto, not until I read the comments did I realize my mistake. But yeah, the major issue is not the heartbreak but the physical danger. Cripes.
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[personal profile] laurajv 2019-09-11 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
This is one of those times when I wish the LW had written to an entirely different, very specific columnist. I feel like Daniel Ortberg would have given much more sensitive and good advice.
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[personal profile] redbird 2019-09-12 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
And Captain Awkward would have had some useful things to say about why "closure" is either a myth or a thing you give yourself, and "I want closure" so often means "I want a chance to reopen this door (or keep it open)."
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[personal profile] mommy 2019-09-12 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
I put it all on the line fighting for our love, but she didn't, after her parents broke her phone, threatened to send her to a psych ward and left her locked up in her house.

What happened to LW was bad, but she does not get to claim that her ex didn't "put it all on the line." The ex-girlfiend clearly put a great deal on the line, and LW's desire for closure three years after the fact isn't going to help. It's time to put the relationship in the Important Memories box and move on.

I have to agree with everyone else here. Amy was not the best columnist for this letter.