conuly: (Default)
conuly ([personal profile] conuly) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2019-08-05 04:41 pm

(no subject)

My husband won’t stop biting our 1-year-old son. He does it out of affection, and while he’s never drawn blood (I can’t believe I have to say that), he does it hard enough to leave marks. I don’t like this. Our son, who is not yet verbal, reacts anywhere from smiling to pushing away to whining. If my husband notices these signals, he doesn’t respond to them. Meanwhile, I am trying to teach our son not to bite me, which he is doing with increasing frequency and vigor these days. I feel like all of the biting from his dad is not helping matters.

This is a big deal to me. I don’t want our son to be hurt or feel violated, I don’t want him to learn that it’s an OK thing to bite others, and I don’t want him to learn that you can do whatever you want to other people’s bodies as long as it feels right to you. I’ve explained all of this to my husband numerous times and asked him to stop biting our son. He thinks that I’m being hysterical and insists that it’s OK because its “genuine” and “how he expresses his love.” I’ve asked him to try expressing his love in nonbiting ways (hugging, kissing, nuzzling, etc.), but he says he doesn’t want to stop.

—Married to a Vampire


Dear MtaV,

Immediate counseling, do not pass go. This is utterly ridiculous. Of course your attempts to teach your son not to bite are failing!

You need this to stop, and you have been exceptionally clear, and he is behaving abusively. I’m hoping he needs a third party to tell him that, but I’m very concerned. Please update me.
misbegotten: Agent Cameron Chase pinching her nose, with the text "Ugh" (DC Chase Ugh)

[personal profile] misbegotten 2019-08-05 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
He bites. His son. What the... ?!?
minoanmiss: Minoan lady watching the Thera eruption (Lady and Eruption)

[personal profile] minoanmiss 2019-08-05 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
TOday in WTF.
shirou: (cloud)

[personal profile] shirou 2019-08-05 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I like how advice columns put my problems in perspective. My wife and I have had a few disagreements about child rearing, but certainly neither of us has ever bitten our kids!
tielan: (AVG - maria)

[personal profile] tielan 2019-08-05 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Possibly a tangent:

I feel like people in these situations frequently make the mistake of thinking the actual act is the problem (ie. biting), when the problem is one of respecting boundaries of other people.

It doesn't matter if it's patting them on the head or fondling their genitals; the act itself is a problem but the root cause is the mentality that makes someone think disrespecting someone else's boundaries is okay just because the violator thinks it's okay.
Edited 2019-08-05 21:56 (UTC)
xenacryst: Peanuts charactor looking unimpressed (Peanuts: isn't impressed)

[personal profile] xenacryst 2019-08-05 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
This is basically almost every single letter to every single advice columnist ever. Boundaries WTF.
cereta: Cover of Do Princesses Wear Hiking Boots (do princesses wear hiking boots?)

[personal profile] cereta 2019-08-05 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously, this is Parenting 101.
ashbet: (Floral)

[personal profile] ashbet 2019-08-05 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
GOOD LORD.

[profile] ____@

Not that I’ve never nommed a baby’s delicious foot or whatever, but this is a HUGE boundary violation, especially since the son is developing a biting issue, and the mother has asked the father to STOP.

Also, leaving MARKS??!? WTF!!
watersword: Jon Stewart, saying "Jesus Fucking Christ!" (Stock: Jesus Fucking Christ!)

[personal profile] watersword 2019-08-05 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, there's the "nom nom gonna eat your toesssssssss" kind of biting, and then there is THIS. He LEAVES MARKS on a preverbal one-year-old and his partner has to specify he doesn't DRAW BLOOD. WTAF.
lavendertook: abyssinian kitty: one ring to rule them all! (smeagol cat)

[personal profile] lavendertook 2019-08-06 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
LW doesn't want their son to feel hurt or violated, but can't yet say they dosn't want to keep being hurt and violated by this husband. Because maybe they have a safe word for their interactions, but he knows he is teaching the baby to bite the LW for his own nonconsensual sadistic pleasure and he's calling the LW "hysterical" --typical toxic misogynist gaslighting term usually lobbed at women, but all still apply, whatever LW's gender identification, to demean them--because he resents safe words binding his sadistic wants and I would bet he won't accept boundaries anyone else sets on his manly pleasure. It's not only the baby who he is abusing deeply.

I say skip the counseling--it will do nothing here after LW explained the power issues in relation to the baby multiple times well enough and got reduced to a wandering womb by him in return--take the baby who can't protect himself and for both your sakes get the hell out now . Take pics of the marks to use in court.
heavenscalyx: (Default)

[personal profile] heavenscalyx 2019-08-06 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Definitely second skipping the counseling and going straight to court. This dude is waving a big red flag that says that he's a pedophile and an abuser.
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (Default)

[personal profile] cimorene 2019-08-06 06:39 am (UTC)(link)
This dude might be nothing more than a mildly sadistic boundary-violator with control issues, but that's already a recipe for emotional abuse. His refusal to engage the issue when his partner makes clear that it's important on a matter of their child is a red flag all by itself.

Geez, what a creep.
rmc28: Rachel in hockey gear on the frozen fen at Upware, near Cambridge (Default)

[personal profile] rmc28 2019-08-06 02:40 pm (UTC)(link)
This isn't a "go to counselling" problem. This is a "dude doesn't like boundaries and doesn't like other people's preferences about their bodies overriding his" problem. (seriously? parent ignoring baby's signals? parent saying to co-parent nah, I don't want to stop my fun way of expressing love that neither you nor baby like?!?)

This is a "get yourself and baby out of there" problem.
lemonsharks: (Default)

[personal profile] lemonsharks 2019-08-06 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Nth-ing "divorce immediately, aggressively pursue full/exclusive custody, and move as far the fuck away from the bastard as you possibly can.".
cereta: Crows at a hanging (hangingcrows)

[personal profile] cereta 2019-08-06 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm gonna go with "go see a lawyer yesterday."