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minoanmiss ([personal profile] minoanmiss) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2024-12-18 02:06 pm

Ask Amy: Divorcing dad needs to put son first

By Amy Dickinson
PUBLISHED: May 6, 2024 at 3:30 AM CST

Dear Amy: My wife and I are divorcing after 23 years of marriage. I am moving out soon.

We have a 21-year-old son.

I talked with him about it, and while he’s angry, he says he understands.

The problem, however, is that my marriage was bad for a very long time, and I fell in love with another woman.

My wife refers to me as an adulterer. She has said this to my son.

How can I help him understand that I am not an adulterer?

I want to have a great relationship with my son; I never want to leave him, but his mother has somewhat poisoned him.

How do I explain things to him?


– No Longer Lonely in Long Island


Dear No Longer Lonely: In the shorter term, you should focus less attention on justifying or trying to redefine your behavior, and focus more attention on your son.

Please understand that any younger person when facing extreme change thinks: “But what about me?” Your son’s first concern is (and should be) more on his own happiness and future than on yours.

And right now, because of this break-up, your son has about 10 times more relationship challenges than you do.

He has to somehow navigate having a separate relationship with his angry, bitter and betrayed mother – and his liberated, self-focused and (I assume) abundantly happy father.

I’m trying to figure out what about your behavior does NOT constitute adultery. So perhaps you should simply cop to this.

I assure you that every spouse who has ever exited their marriage via another relationship has justified it by pointing to their own unhappiness.

But the order of marriage-exit is supposed to be: Decide to separate, move out, divorce, new relationship.

Do your best to create a lot of space for your son to say whatever he needs to say. Absolutely correct the record if the narrative has strayed completely from the truth, but invite him to ask you any question and answer him truthfully.

My suggestion is that you not criticize his mother for feeling betrayed – even if she unfairly lashes out. Her feelings are her feelings, and you should say only that you are sorry she is feeling so sad and you wish she wouldn’t draw your son into her sadness.

Do not fling your new relationship into his path, compare your new woman to his mother, or ask him to be happy for you.

Apologize to him for disrupting his life in this way, and assure him that you will always be in his corner, no matter what.
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[personal profile] firecat 2024-12-19 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed, he is using the definition of “adulterer” that means, “a bad person who cheats on their spouse for bad reasons” whereas he is a good person who simply fell in lerrrrve through no fault of his own and of course if you lerrrrve someone you get to fuck them even if your marriage agreements say otherwise…it’s simply a law of nature.
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[personal profile] joyeuce 2024-12-19 12:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank heaven for common sense in this corner of the internet! A situation bearing some resemblance to this came up on a soap I follow - in this case married woman began a relationship with her single male boss. She had felt for some time that her marriage was over but hadn't bothered to mention this to her husband. When I dared to suggest on a fansite that she was therefore cheating on her husband, I was shouted down "because the marriage was over and she deserves to be happy". It just seemed so obvious to me that if she was still legally married and the husband wasn't even aware she wanted out, she was in fact committing adultery.
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[personal profile] firecat 2024-12-19 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the marriage is emotionally dead and she deserves to be happy AND if there was an expectation of monogamy, she’s cheating. If the fans are denying that, it seems to me that they’re taking half the fun out of the storyline (under what circumstances do people cheat and what would be the consequences if she told her husband and how would you handle it if you were in her shoes and…). “She did overlapping serial monogamy because she was unhappy and it was perfectly OK and they all lived happily ever after” is boring.