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Lucy ([personal profile] cereta) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2023-12-05 12:17 pm
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Carolyn Hax: Life ‘really opened up’ post-divorce — just not for ex-wife and child

Dear Carolyn: Three years ago, I woke up to the fact that I wasn’t happy with my life. The pandemic made me realize there are no guarantees and you have to live your life now. I’d been married five years, right out of college, to my high school sweetheart, and it hit me that I was 27 with a wife and kid and mortgage, living like I was 40, and if I didn’t do something, life was going to pass me by.

As much as it hurt, I left and started over, and I’m so happy now. I have a great apartment, I’m getting noticed at work, I’m dating casually, I’m even planning a three-week trip to South America. Life has really opened up for me.

I wish I could say the same of my ex-wife, but she has just shut down. She moved back in with her folks, which is so sad — she’s never had her own place; she even lived at home during college. From what I can tell, she doesn’t date, even though she’s a young, good-looking woman with a good job and our son is old enough now to leave with a babysitter.

I’ll always love her. I’ve tried reaching out, but she doesn’t respond to any overtures unless it’s about our son. You got a letter recently from someone who didn’t like questions from her ex about her love life. I’m honestly not doing that; I don’t care if she dates, I just want her to have a full life. I’d like to get together with her and talk about what she’s doing and encourage her to want more for herself. Is that out of line?

— Anonymous

Anonymous: You divorced your standing to want things for her. So, yes, out of line.

Apparently, you also left her to do the heavy daily work of living a premature middle age and rearing your son while you went out and got your 20s back. Out of line and in her face.

Over the years, I’ve read letters with some nerve, but this one has some freaking nerve. (That’s two levels up from basic nerve.)

You don’t mention anything about money, and maybe that’s because it isn’t an issue, and maybe that’s because you’re giving her enough in child support and possibly alimony to enable her to move herself and your son out of her parents’ home into quality housing of her own, and she simply has chosen not to do that. If so, then, okay — I’ll back off that part of it.

Anonymous: You divorced your standing to want things for her. So, yes, out of line.

Apparently, you also left her to do the heavy daily work of living a premature middle age and rearing your son while you went out and got your 20s back. Out of line and in her face.

Over the years, I’ve read letters with some nerve, but this one has some freaking nerve. (That’s two levels up from basic nerve.)

You don’t mention anything about money, and maybe that’s because it isn’t an issue, and maybe that’s because you’re giving her enough in child support and possibly alimony to enable her to move herself and your son out of her parents’ home into quality housing of her own, and she simply has chosen not to do that. If so, then, okay — I’ll back off that part of it.

If you do owe her more as a co-parent, then improve her life by stepping up more as a co-parent — not not not by appointing yourself her life coach.

If you already do beyond your share as a co-parent, then trust and accept that as your only appropriate contribution to her prospects in life, which are otherwise now up to her.

Either way, if you ever find yourself “encourag[ing]” her to “want more,” put your fist in your mouth.
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[personal profile] kiezh 2023-12-05 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeeeeeah, that timing sure does suggest that the breaking point for him was when his wife was caught up in infant care (and therefore presumably not dancing attendance on him like she had for something approaching a decade) and HE might even be expected to change diapers or something, oh horrors! The trap of middle-aged life! Gotta run out and prove his virility and coolness right away lest he wither!
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[personal profile] lannamichaels 2023-12-05 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)

Like, just, the whole idea that "middle age" = "the time of raising the kids" is so... I don't even know how to say it. But it's not coming out of constant cultural attention to "the biological clock" and "women need to have babies at specific ages".

Dude assumes middle age is the time for babies. Okay. Cool. But you presumably had the baby on purpose???

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[personal profile] kiezh 2023-12-05 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, he acts as though wife, child, and mortgage just inexplicably and terribly HAPPENED to him, as if he was not an adult making choices at every turn.