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minoanmiss ([personal profile] minoanmiss) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2021-04-06 01:16 pm

Dear Prudence: Today in Environmentalism

aka today in ableism.

Q. Straws: I have a weird medical condition that causes dental issues. I have almost zero tooth enamel and my teeth are incredibly sensitive. I’ve been advised by multiple doctors and dentists to always drink through a straw to lessen the amount of whatever I’m drinking rushing against my teeth.

Part of my city has banned plastic straws, so it’s been difficult. I have reusable ones but they’re not the easiest or most convenient to use. My friends are very passionate about the environment (and so am I). Every time they see me use a straw, they make a negative comment about it. The worst offender is one of my childhood friends, who is also a co-worker. I’ve explained my medical condition but no one cares. One person even said I should just “get dentures already” so I can stop “killing the environment.” I’m honestly a little tired of talking about my straw use. How can I get them all to shut up about it?


A: I’m so sorry! How maddening and disproportionate. I wonder if your friends bring the same energy to the inadequacies of, say, the Paris Agreement, or the major contributors to carbon emissions as they do to a single person’s medically-indicated reusable straws. I’m a little amused at the idea that someone thinks dentures (often made of acrylic and requiring ongoing monitoring and care from one’s dentist—think of all the little plastic cups and bibs that will run into!) are going to single-handedly save the environment, and more than a little horrified that the doctor-advised solution of using straws is considered ridiculous, but removing all of the otherwise-healthy teeth in your head is a reasonable alternative.

I realize bringing that up in this context might make you come across as defensive, but it seems telling that your friends’ primary interest in combating climate change comes from a desire to monitor, judge, and restrict something that accommodates your disability. (If that particular word doesn’t suit you, let’s stick with “medically necessary”—something that enables you to do what they’re able to do without intervention, which is to drink liquids without pain.) That’s the point to stress here, I think—”saving the environment” is going to come from collective action on a massive scale, not from harassing individual people with sensitive teeth into stripping the rest of their enamel away.
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[personal profile] jadelennox 2021-04-06 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
if I could comfortably raise my hand, I would.

Anyway, if LW's friends are unable to learn, LW needs new friends. "Look, y'all, do you think the hospital should stop using disposable saline bags and syringes? If yes, bye, we're done. And if no, then can understand the concept of medical necessity, but for some reason you don't want to apply it to me. Think about that."

Anyway I've had this exact fight because when I'm out of the house I also need plastic straws (restaurant glasses are too heavy.) Just not with my friends, because my friends aren't terrible. I've had the fight with co-workers, though.
Edited (clarification) 2021-04-06 18:00 (UTC)
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[personal profile] cimorene 2021-04-06 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
"Get new friends" was my thought too.

I suppose there's a slim possibility her friends are mostly stupid and not malicious and she just needs a better way to explain medical necessity and shoot down the fallacy behind this type of particularly stupid environmentalist strategy... but even in that case they're still pretty awful if they've continued to badger LW after any sort of explanation at all.
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[personal profile] julian 2021-04-06 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, do I want to bite her friends for her.
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[personal profile] drglam 2021-04-06 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm still kind of amazed at the traction straw bans have gotten, especially since it's all based on a nine year old boy's questionable calculation. Yet, it's so much easier to shame disabled people than do something about the much larger industrial sources of plastic pollution (like, say, discarded fishing nets).
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[personal profile] conuly 2021-04-07 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
*eyeroll*

I'm all for reusable straws, just like I'm all for reusable plates and silverware, but hassling your friends isn't the way. Also: they're kinda a small drop in the big pond that is corporate pollution.
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[personal profile] gingicat 2021-04-07 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
The tech has to get a lot better on reusable straws; every water bottle I bought for the kids when they were small contained a straw that had to be washed, and either melted in the dishwasher or went moldy. Even the expensive ones.

Edit: I should say, that they went moldy if they didn’t go through the dishwasher.
Edited 2021-04-07 01:33 (UTC)
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[personal profile] conuly 2021-04-07 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, we've got silicone straws and glass ones and a few metal ones and we haven't had that problem. Of course, we also don't have a dishwasher, but the process of manually washing straws with a strawbrush and some soap is not what's making me agitate for one.

To be clear, if you don't want 'em, don't get 'em. But I just have not had that problem you name.
Edited 2021-04-07 04:07 (UTC)
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[personal profile] gingicat 2021-04-07 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
Huh, do you have links of where to purchase a straw brush?
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[personal profile] green_grrl 2021-04-07 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
All the metal straws I’ve bought came with a brush. Get one of those, and have an extra reusable straw on hand, to boot?
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[personal profile] conuly 2021-04-07 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
I believe I got all ours as part of the silicone and then glass straw packs. (It turns out that my younger niece, of all things, has a weird oral allergy reaction to silicone. I'm still not 100% sure I believe this, even though it's been amazingly consistent and - before we determined that this was the cause - from things that she didn't know had been kept in containers that have silicone lids, touching said lids. I mean, silicone!? The mind boggles. Hence the glass straws. The metal ones were freebies with fancy soda, but I do not recommend them for most people in most cases because they really react to the temperature!)

It looks like you can get them for cheap from the usual suspects without buying the straws themselves, if you already have straws and just want to clean them.

Note: This should be obvious, but just in case - I'm not sure they clean "wacky straws", the ones with weird shapes and squiggles. I've never tried it and don't intend to!
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[personal profile] conuly 2021-04-08 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
IDK. I mean, it's obviously *something*, I don't really disbelieve her, it's just such a weird allergy. I would not have believed it was possible until it happened!