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dorinda ([personal profile] dorinda) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2018-12-11 08:17 am

Dear Prudence: Office perfume etiquette

Q. Office perfume etiquette: I work in a small office with about 12 other people, all women except one man. It’s a small space and as the front desk admin, I have to interact with everyone throughout the day. I unfortunately get frequent migraines (averaging 2 per week), which are very painful and challenging to deal with. They happen so often that I can’t use my sick days to get through them, so I’m regularly in pain at work. Over the past two years I’ve tried working with a doctor to lessen these attacks, to no avail.

My problem is that my migraines are sometimes triggered, and certainly aggravated, by perfume and other chemical scents. About five of the women in my office wear strong and heavy perfume every day. I can’t avoid my co-workers and am not able to close a door to cut myself off from the parade of competing floral and powder scents that waft past me every few minutes. What can I do to deal with this in a respectful, effective way? I’ve explained my problem to a few of the women and asked, very kindly and apologetically, if they could wear less perfume to the office, but none of them have made the effort to do so. One woman started wearing more instead! I feel like a jerk for dictating such a personal habit to people I have to get along with every day. But I’m in agony, and it’s driving me insane. Please help!

A: How awful that one of your co-workers responded to your request by wearing more perfume than before—that’s baffling, unnecessary, and cruel. I feel like there’s been a cultural tipping point over the last few years, and most people are at least aware that sensitivity to perfumes and colognes can be a pretty common migraine trigger. I’m sorry that asking individuals politely hasn’t helped. I think your next move needs to be talking to your boss and HR, if you have an HR department. Framing this as a medical issue (and a workplace productivity issue—you can’t be useful as a front desk admin if you’re at home or on the verge of passing out) will hopefully get some weight behind your request.

Has anyone had luck getting co-workers hooked on perfume to cut down? Do signs help? Air purifiers tucked behind the desk? Let us know.
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[personal profile] commodorified 2018-12-11 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
My dentist's office has a large sign on the door explaining that due to serious perfume allergies in the staff, people wearing scent will be rebooked.

As far as I know, this hasn't caused any shortage of patients.
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[personal profile] fairestcat 2018-12-13 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
our physio also has a "scent-free office" sign, it's something I'd like to see become much more common.
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[personal profile] lilysea 2018-12-13 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
our physio also has a "scent-free office" sign, it's something I'd like to see become much more common.

Me too!

I once had to cancel an appointment with a medical professional (a podiatrist) as she had gone to a perfume store at lunch time and generously applied samples to her arms... fortunately they didn't make me pay for the appointment.
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[personal profile] cereta 2018-12-11 02:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, my God, what a horrible bunch of people. I had an officemate who used scented products, and she very graciously cut down and even brought in some of them for me to give the sniff test. I stopped bringing in peanut butter dishes because she was allergic. I can't imagine being told, "this thing you do makes me sick" and doubling down on it.

I can say from experience that getting a letter from your doctor can be a critical step in going to HR or your boss. I don't know if this would technically be covered under ADA or a similar act, but having a definite medical diagnosis is always helpful.
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[personal profile] kaberett 2018-12-11 03:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I strongly suspect it would be in most contexts I'm familiar with.
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[personal profile] sara 2018-12-11 03:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I once had a co-worker who I had to raise this issue with repeatedly, and he similarly would not change his habits.

The boss similarly would not escalate it or make it a condition of employment.

I didn't get it.

Finally, the stinky colleague...who the boss had provided considerable support for while he was in grad school, in the hope that Stinky Colleague would use his professional qualifications to the benefit of our business, once he finished obtaining them? Took off for another workplace.

I wasn't sorry to see him go. I wasn't even all that sorry for Boss. The new guy we hired was much nicer and didn't give me headaches.
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[personal profile] finch 2018-12-11 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
That is a beautiful illustration of a Missing Stair in the workplace.

At a previous job I had a coworker who would go out to smoke and then coat herself in this awful floral cloud. When I asked her to at least not come stand in front of my face where I couldn't avoid it, she also doubled down, as well as trying to "trick" me and the other asthmatic person by saying she'd worn different perfume or something as if my lungs were not paying sufficient attention. Boss even talked to her about it but nothing happened.
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[personal profile] conuly 2018-12-13 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
Kinda feel like at a certain point the only thing left to do is scream "OMG WHAT STINKS IN HERE!?" every time he showed up.
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[personal profile] jadelennox 2018-12-11 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm someone who gets migraines from many perfumes (and rashes or hives from touching the perfume inserts in women's magazines), and I've found that many perfume wearers think "I have a medical issue that has a negative response to your perfume" is secret asshole code for "I hate you and I am making up words to feel bad."

(Much as many people interpret "please tell me if that contains wheat so I don't get sick" as "I am a special hipster foodie snowflake Goop-addict who makes up fake health issues to get double sriracha." People used to be the same way about peanuts and cigarettes, but it seems the overton window has shifted sufficiently on those.)
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[personal profile] lavendertook 2018-12-11 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Many smokers are still that way about cigarettes in the US. One is a downstairs neighbor whose smoke smell fills my apartment, but not for much longer since I'm moving soon.
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[personal profile] shirou 2018-12-11 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed on getting a medical diagnosis before going to HR. I get serious migraines that can be triggered by fluorescent lights, and I have a letter from my neurologist saying I need a work environment without fluorescent lighting. HR made it happen, but I don't think they could have justified the expense without the letter.

I don't know whether ADA or another law covers migraines. I'm lucky that it didn't come up: my company has a policy of providing medically necessary accommodations even when there isn't a legal obligation. Requiring a doctor's letter helps them keep such a policy because it avoids putting HR in the awkward position of adjudicating what constitutes a medical necessity. HR considers something to be a medical necessity when a certified medical professional says it is.
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[personal profile] minoanmiss 2018-12-12 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
Not least as the daughter of someone who bathes in perfume, I am sending the LW migraine-alleviating vibes.