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Nechama Chaya ([personal profile] med_cat) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2026-04-15 10:52 pm
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Miss Manners: They invited me to brunch at their freezing mansion

Greetings, everyone! I have been enjoying reading the entries and discussion in this community, and came upon this article today that I thought I'd share:
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Dear Miss Manners:

I was invited to a brunch as the only guest. The hosts live in a 6,000-square-foot mansion, of which all of the rooms could be photographed for a slick architectural magazine.

Brunch was delicious, but the rub of the situation was that the house was 54 degrees in temperature, and it was 15 degrees outside.

I am on blood thinners and I am very cognizant of cold. When I inquired if they were having heating issues, the reply was that the house is too expensive to warm up to 68 degrees, and that they do not like large gas bills.

I left about two and a half hours later, just after the repast, with near frostbite on my fingers and toes. Would I have been remiss in telling the hosts I could not stay because the house was too cold, and I was very uncomfortable physically?

I would like to have said this before we had our meal. However, I bit my lip and suffered through the whole unpleasant situation.



Making your guests uncomfortable is, without a doubt, bad hosting.

But calling your hosts rude, setting fire to the carpet and/or leaving early are bad guesting.

So how do we get you out of there without numbing your extremities?

You could confess your entire medical history to your hosts and hope that appearing pitiful convinces them to do the right thing. But this seems to Miss Manners both demeaning and not guaranteed of success.

Better to claim not to feel well in the moment and apologize that you had to leave before the meal was served — even if doing so requires a slight numbing of your moral sensibilities.
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[personal profile] ashbet 2026-04-16 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, I think it would be perfectly civil to say that you have a medical condition that is affected by cold, and at least ask if they could turn the heat up in the room you’re in (or loan you a coat and some warm slippers!)

I have very little sympathy for hosts that obviously have means, but are too skinflint to ensure their guest’s comfort.
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[personal profile] otter 2026-04-16 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
There's nothing wrong with saying "I should have brought a sweater, do you have one I may borrow?"
My family of origin kept a basket of slippers near the door for guests to borrow. Because the house was kept no warmer than 64 in winter.
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[personal profile] topaz_eyes 2026-04-16 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
Keeping a house at 54 F (12 C) with an outside temp of 15 F (-9.5 C) is risking freezing pipes. If these hosts think the gas bill is too high, wait til they get a plumbing bill for burst pipes.

Also, keeping a house too cold puts dwellers at risk for hypothermia and circulation problems. At the very least the hosts could have installed portable space heaters in the rooms they were using. LW was right to leave early.
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[personal profile] conuly 2026-04-16 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
If you cannot afford to heat a 6000 square foot mansion to the legally mandated minimum for rentals, you cannot afford a 6000 square foot mansion. Move somewhere cheaper.
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[personal profile] lilysea 2026-04-16 07:54 am (UTC)(link)

Low house temperatures in winter = increased risk of heart attacks.

I saw an official research paper by the New Zealand government's health department about it, they quantified that there were

X heart attack deaths in New Zealand in winter

but there would be [less than X] deaths if people could afford to heat their home to the minimum safe levels.

And there are lots of places in the US that get colder than New Zealand.
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[personal profile] oursin 2026-04-16 08:44 am (UTC)(link)
Query: were the hosts bundled up in nice warm clothes, maybe snug padded jackets? (One assumes that if they can't afford heating bills, cashmere and other fabrics historically deployed for posh warmth would be out of the question, unless maybe they thrift them?) Feel that the invites should say 'wrap up warm' as a matter of courtesy.