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conuly ([personal profile] conuly) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2025-04-05 06:31 pm

LW, get more therapy

Dear Carolyn: My partner/husband of 25 years asked for a divorce five years ago. We were having problems and had tried couples counseling, etc. But the conversation left me speechless and unable to respond. In the moment, I decided to shut down and announced that I would move out by the end of the month, which I did.

It’s now five years later, and I’ve had time and therapy to consider everything that happened. I’ve come to realize that I’m still incredibly angry, mostly at myself, for not standing up for myself or for the relationship. I fantasize about reaching out to him and telling him exactly how much he hurt me, emotionally and financially.

I told him to never contact me again, and he has abided by that request. And I realize my anger is mine to own and deal with. But is there a way to have my say and then close the door on this part of my life? I am with a new partner, who is wonderful, and I am fortunate this worked out for the best for me. But I want to get rid of this anger.


Angry: I have a question for you first: Why couldn’t you then, and why won’t you now, talk to your ex-husband? You were “speechless and unable to respond.” So you “shut down.” You ended the marriage, in fact, rather than try to say your piece. And, for good measure, you told him, “Never contact me again.” Now, five years later, you want to “have my say” … and “close the door.” You throw stiff-arms like an NFL running back.

That can be great for protecting yourself in the moment. Necessary. But you’re out! So this urge to — essentially — hit your ex and run away seems incongruous. Either you’re upset with yourself, which doesn’t involve your ex, or you’re upset with him, which involves interacting with him.

I don’t say any of this to be critical. I have been in the position myself of having unresolved hurt, and mentally phrasing and rephrasing all the things I wish I’d said — it’s awful. I’m sympathetic. But I am trying to follow your logic, and I don’t see it.

Because a chance to have your say won’t release you, will it? Or else you already would have found a way to do it — in counseling back then, or in divorce negotiations, or over coffee sometime afterward, even years later. You wouldn’t keep protectively throwing your arm out there.

Maybe the thing that tripped you up with your ex, for whatever reason, was that you couldn’t say what you felt. Couldn’t form the thoughts or couldn’t form the words or couldn’t find the moment or never got a fair chance or got there and froze. Or some combination. No sense of control. There are a lot of ways for a couple to be a poor fit, even with all the opportunities and the best of intentions.

If this is what happened with you and your ex, then maybe anger-downloading isn’t the answer so much as forgiving is — yourself especially for freezing up where you saw yourself speaking up. And maybe more counseling if you’re freezing again with your new partner.

I also suggest, for your own peace of mind, that you put your unexpressed anger in writing. Drafting and refining a letter to your ex that you never send can clarify a lot about what you need to say to whom and why. It’s acting vs. reacting. From there, you can certainly revisit whether, when and how your say gets said.

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[personal profile] otter 2025-04-06 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I have a good guess that the ex knows quite well how much and in which ways he caused harm. No point in trying to open a door that is good and shut just to slam it one more time. LW has a lot of personal work to do in therapy. Saying this as someone who still has residual anger 20 years post-divorce, much of which was caused by trying to co-parent afterwards. I wish I'd been able to make things so final as LW was and did.
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[personal profile] minoanmiss 2025-04-06 02:43 am (UTC)(link)

LW, I sympathize with you. I spent years thinking about each of my major breakups, both friend and romantic. There's someone in my head who elevated themself to one of the Negative Voices In My Head even though I'm never going to speak to them IRL ever again.

And I can tell you, as my fellow commenter said, "Lobbing truth bombs and then running away never works as well as you'd think it ought to. You don't actually feel better after doing it." That's a narrative convention. Life doesn't resolve so neatly.

Don't contact your ex. Improve your dialogue with yourself. It may take years but you will [1] work your way through it. I've worked my way through some of my breakups. We shall work on ourselves in parallel

[1] probably, maybe, hopefully. I'm not psychic.