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conuly ([personal profile] conuly) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2023-05-17 01:27 am

WTF did I just read!?

DEAR ABBY: My 23-year-old daughter and her first and only boyfriend have begun to talk marriage. Although I think he's a wonderful, smart, compassionate young man who seems to adore my daughter, I have one major concern: his unhealthy habits.

When my daughter introduced him to us seven years ago, he was a little overweight. Since then, I've watched him pack on at least 25 pounds a year, and he's now morbidly obese. His diet is horrible, and he never exercises. He also drinks and smokes, although not excessively.

My daughter, on the other hand, is petite, athletic and clean-living. Her habits haven't rubbed off on him. I know enough about weight gain and health to be deeply concerned about the trend I'm seeing. Her boyfriend is fast approaching the super-morbidly-obese range and has limited mobility. He graduated near the top of their college class, but hasn't had a stable job since. I'm afraid it's only going to get harder for him to get hired in the future.

What's making me even more upset is my blindly-in-love, naive daughter seems to have lost interest in pursuing a career of her own and is thinking this guy is going to take care of her. She has no clue that her boyfriend's the one who's likely to need taking care of before long, and she's going to find it mighty difficult to both work and care for a man who towers over her and weighs nearly four times what she does.

So far, I haven't said anything about this. I'm happy my daughter has found someone who's kind, funny and loving, and whose family is so welcoming to her. I don't want her to lose this guy; I just want them to get on a better track. I think they both need a reality check. Should I say something, or is it not my place? -- FRETTING MOM


DEAR MOM: Talk to your daughter about your concerns, all of which are valid. Your daughter should NOT put her career on the back burner because, as you have pointed out, she may need it. Make sure she understands that her boyfriend's choices will affect not only her future, but possibly her children's, so this is a serious subject you will bring up only ONCE.

If this romance does progress to marriage -- and I wish them a long and happy one -- they should make estate planning a PRIORITY just in case. When love is in the air, we all expect a happy ending, but all too often fate intervenes.

https://www.arcamax.com/healthandspirit/lifeadvice/dearabby/s-2820747
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[personal profile] firecat 2023-05-17 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
I'm shocked, shocked to discover Abby promulgating fatphobia.
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[personal profile] firecat 2023-05-17 06:19 am (UTC)(link)
It sure is. >:(
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[personal profile] oursin 2023-05-17 08:58 am (UTC)(link)
Gosh, funny ol' me, I would be far more concerned about the 'hasn't had a stable job' and Besotted Young Miss thinking he's going to 'take care of her' and she doesn't need to think about her career. (Has he been lurking in a basement speculating in crypto perhaps? or are there not people who monetise gaming? I am not sure that would be a positive augury.) Focusing on the wrong thing, really.
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[personal profile] ethelmay 2023-05-19 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with oursin. Also marrying the first person you ever dated, whom you started dating at sixteen, seems like a red flag. (N.B.: not saying it couldn't be fine. Red flags are a warning sign, not a certainty.)

Though also, if they're both 23 (as is implied by "their college class"), he's most likely been out of school for one year, during a pandemic. While it's generally a fairly hot job market, it's not that surprising if he hasn't gotten a standard good-job-with-benefits yet. (Fatphobia might have something to do with his not getting as many offers as other people, too.) But it's not what I would call an ideal setup for immediate marriage, either, and at 23 they could afford to wait a bit.
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[personal profile] melannen 2023-05-19 02:56 pm (UTC)(link)
What you both said! LW seems to be completely minimizing the *actual* red flags here in favor of fatphobia. (It really does maybe sound like he's working at a get-rich-quick-scheme like NFTs and his girlfriend has bought in that she has to support him just until he hits it big. That's *never* a good plan.) But I don't trust LW to be accurate about that part either at this point.
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[personal profile] castiron 2023-05-19 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
This! I wouldn't be worrying about "will he die from cardiovascular disease in his 40s?", I'd be worrying about "if the relationship goes bad, will my daughter be unable to leave because either she's made herself financially dependent on him, or he's made himself financially dependent on her and she feels too guilty to leave?"
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[personal profile] feast_of_regrets 2023-05-17 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
My favorite part is where LW thinks she can gauge the man's BMI (morbidly obese vs super obese) on sight. Super great opportunity there for Abby to tell her she's not a doctor and doctors can't do that. "I know enough about weight gain and health to be deeply concerned about the trend I'm seeing." Apparently not. (Also, seven years and LW just now wants to say something?)
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[personal profile] ethelmay 2023-05-19 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, people like LW may not be the most reliable witnesses on this topic. My dad (who had Issues about weight) would sometimes refer to someone he knew as "obese," and when I met them they'd look nothing of the kind to me.
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[personal profile] feast_of_regrets 2023-05-19 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Really excellent point. People who are obsessed with fatness see it everywhere. (Both my parents are like this, too.)
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[personal profile] finch 2023-05-17 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
they should make estate planning a PRIORITY just in case.

Yes because only fat people die unexpectedly and/or young!

Ugh every part of this letter annoys the crap out of me.