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jadelennox ([personal profile] jadelennox) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2022-07-21 10:16 am
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Pay Dirt: I Make $700,000 a Year, and I Pay a Lot in Taxes. Must I Also Donate to Charity?

Dear Pay Dirt,

What’s the appropriate amount to give to charity for my income level? I make around $700,000 a year, and give around $10,000 a year to charity, which seems measly for my income level. Some days I think this is absurdly low—with current levels of inequality I should be giving half of my after-tax income to charity. Other days I think, hell, my effective tax rate is about 50%. Do I really owe society more?

—Am I A Scrooge?

Dear Scrooge,

Acknowledging inequality says a lot about you, so no, I don’t think you’re a total scrooge. Honestly, I would get angry paying that much in taxes myself. And you may have other situations where you’re being generous—supporting family members who have less, for example—that aren’t strictly “charity,” as most would understand it.

People’s opinions may differ, but I don’t think you should have to give to a charitable cause just in order to feel better about your high income. Instead, acknowledge your high income as a gift and find a cause you feel passionate about. Donating just because is different than donating to a cause that keeps you up at night. You may find that, as you become more passionate about the work being done, you may want to donate more, whether that be dollars or time. You could also look into making a recurring donation, like setting up a scholarship fund at a local non-profit. You’d be making a difference while changing someone’s future.

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[personal profile] lemonsharks 2022-07-21 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)

Imo if LW is a millionaire then they are ethically obligated to give away their money until they aren’t a millionaire anymore.

Or to really, really look at their profession and determine whether the work that gives them 700k/yr after tax is putting more good than awfulness into the world. Fossil fuel industry? Time to quit and do something else. Biopharma research scientist? Maybe keep doing what you’re doing. Celebrity plastic surgeon? Have you considered switching to doing mostly pro bono reconstructive work? Anesthesiologist? Have you done everything you can to forgive debts and charge rates your poorest patients can afford?

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[personal profile] melannen 2022-07-21 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Around where I live, a millionaire is a 65-year-old retired schoolteacher with a perfectly normal suburban house they own outright after a 30-year-mortgage and the minimum retirement savings recommended to be secure. I'm not convinced you're ethically obligated to not have a house or retirement savings. (In fact, I would prefer if everybody had a house and enough retirement savings.)

That said, this person could buy a perfectly normal suburban house in cash anywhere in the country and then sock away enough in retirement savings in less than two years and then go become a public school teacher, so I don't think that applies to them.
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[personal profile] melannen 2022-07-21 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't even know what counts as "middle income" anymore. I've known several people who've gone into that kind of housing, and none of them were what I'd call more than middle income - several of them were factory worker's wives - *but* they were all White pre-Boomers who had lots and lots of house equity they could put into it. Because you could buy a house and a couple of acres of land for half a year's factory pay in 1932. (These days if you want to buy a house on half a year's pay, you're making 700,000 a year.)
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[personal profile] ethelmay 2022-07-22 04:52 am (UTC)(link)
That's the old-fashioned definition of "millionaire," which no longer really means someone with a million in assets, because inflation has messed up the implications of that. It used to be that someone who had a million in well invested assets could live very luxuriously indeed by drawing off $30K or $40K per year, and never run out of money. These days you'd need maybe ten million to live in a remotely "millionaire" style. It's also often used for someone who makes a million dollars per year, which this person doesn't quite, but not so far off.