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conuly ([personal profile] conuly) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2022-02-15 05:23 pm

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Dear Amy: My wife and I bought a house. Our intention was to sell it to my son and his wife for the same price that we paid for it.

We rented it out while getting their existing house ready to sell.

We agreed to the stipulation that they need to improve how they handle their money. They both work, but live paycheck to paycheck. (My daughter-in-law is a spending machine.)

The new and bigger house has appreciated 20 percent since we purchased it and they both really want to move in, but they have not kept up their end of the bargain.

If I cancel this deal or delay selling this house to them, she will go bonkers.

She is VERY headstrong. My son needs to stand up to her, but I am reluctant (I already tried) to put this on him because he is going through treatments for depression – this depression thing has really changed him.

He has mentioned failure and suicide.

I just cannot support a lifestyle that supplies 37 pair of underwear for their 4-year-old daughter.

His mother and I want to do the best thing.

What do you think?

– Concerned Father


Dear Father: You are attempting to control this couple, and this is the worst way to go about it.

If they are so bad with money, then aren’t you setting them up for failure by putting them into a “new and bigger” house? How will they afford the upkeep and the taxes on this more valuable property?

And because you have such low regard for her and a lack of compassion for him, they should not be financially entangled with you.

Overall, if you are trying to inspire someone toward change, you need to agree to specific and achievable milestones. “Improve how they handle their money” is a vague stipulation. Are you in charge of deciding if they have “improved”?

This arrangement also has you believing that you have the right to count their young daughter’s underwear, which you don’t. That is extremely disrespectful to everyone in the family.

This lack of respect is potentially disastrous for your relationship with this family. Your lack of boundaries and harsh judgment will have a negative impact on your son’s mental health.

“This depression thing” is real. Depression is a serious illness, and your son should be focused on his health and treatment – not on pleasing you.

Your son probably does need to stand up to someone, but in my opinion, you are the person he needs to stand up to. Unfortunately, his depression has likely robbed him of the strength to do that.

If you made an agreement, you should stick to your end of it. And then you should remove yourself from all financial control.

If you and your wife want to help them, you could put your extra money into a college fund for your granddaughter.

https://www.arcamax.com/healthandspirit/lifeadvice/askamy/s-2630766?fs
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[personal profile] lannamichaels 2022-02-15 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
The least important detail in here but underwear is not that expensive, and 37 pairs isn't unreasonable for making sure you always have clean ones ready, even if you need to do laundry.
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[personal profile] ambyr 2022-02-15 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Right? I was all ready to hear about her 500 pairs of Louboutins or her designer handbags or lavish Michelin-star meals . . . and the biggest complaint he can make is underwear? Underwear? I am a small adult and sometimes buy children's underwear because, um, well, because they're less likely to sell me superhero undies in adult sizes. I can get a ten-pack at Target for $7.50.
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[personal profile] jadelennox 2022-02-15 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)

And if they don't have laundry in the house, or if she wets herself sometimes -- she's four! -- then that's not even a lot!

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[personal profile] cereta 2022-02-15 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Especially given that a 4-year-old might still be toilet training; it's not at all uncommon for a child that age to still be night-training. And also changing sizes every other week.
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[personal profile] castiron 2022-02-15 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
If the four-year-old is still having toileting accidents regularly, or if they wear a pair during the day and then a clean pair to bed, then yes, 37 pairs may not be out of line. (Also, I just went and counted; my youngest kid has about 17-18 pairs in the drawer, and probably a couple more in the laundry. Spouse, the laundry-wrangler and buyer of kids' clothes, is not an excessive spender for the sake of spending.)

But that's beside the point. Unless "37 pairs" means "a lot of underwear (which if someone counted might be less than half that many)", WHAT THE HECK IS THIS GUY DOING COUNTING HIS GRANDDAUGHTER'S UNDERPANTS?