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minoanmiss ([personal profile] minoanmiss) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2021-09-15 11:08 am

#NotAllManagers

Oh this is funny. This is a slightly unorthodox submission, as it is a thread in a discussion of an answer.

The original question was "should I feel guilty about leaving for another job?"

Here's one comment:
ENFP in Texas*
September 15, 2021 at 12:30 am
#1 – remember that It’s Just Business, It’s Not Personal. He’s your manager,not your best buddy, and it’s a workplace, not a family.

Also realize that if the company had to cut costs, they could – and would – lay you off in a heartbeat without any guilt whatsoever.

Good luck with the job hunt!


This is Alison's Response:

Ask a Manager*September 15, 2021 at 12:35 am
Eh, plenty of managers feel terrible when they have to lay people off. I’m not a fan of the “they’d get rid of you without thinking twice” framework — often they would agonize over it and feel terrible about it (that’s true of every single manager I know who’s had to lay people off, including me). Plus if it doesn’t ring true to the person receiving that advice, they’ll be less likely to listen to the part that is true — which is that this is work and you can put your own interests first.


My thoughts in first comment
lilysea: Serious (Default)

Re: Whole manager disposal service, yes the entire manager

[personal profile] lilysea 2021-09-18 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
Ultimately, I think it's very difficult to choose to work a job that requires firing people and still be a good person

On the other hand, there are times when a manager dragging their feet about firing someone is the
unethical thing to do

I'm thinking here about a nurse in the news recently who had sexually assaulted multiple patients but was given second chance after second chance after second chance
before FINALLY being fired...
lemonsharks: (Default)

Re: Whole manager disposal service, yes the entire manager

[personal profile] lemonsharks 2021-09-18 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)

Considering it took several "second chances" to get him removed from his position, I think this situation supports rather than refutes my assertion.