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conuly ([personal profile] conuly) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2019-08-04 08:57 am

Hitting Rough Seas on a Friendly Cruise

Dear Annie: My wife and I are approaching 50 years of marriage. Recently, we went on a cruise with her childhood friend, "Cindy," and her husband, "Rob." They have been friends since elementary school and Cindy was the maid of honor at our wedding.

During the cruise, Rob made a joke of a comment Cindy made, and I laughed at the delivery, no malice intended. Rob laughed, too.

A few moments later, Cindy told me that I was rude and had always been rude. This took me by surprise because I've known her and thought we were friends for more than 40 years. I apologized for hurting her feelings and asked her to accept my apology. She turned her back to me and walked away, not saying anything. Since that incident, I have avoided her. I just tolerate her presence for my wife's sake. My wife doesn't know that this incident took place, and I won't ever mention it to her for fear that their long relationship will be damaged. If it ever comes to light, it won't come from me. I was not aware that she harbored such feelings all these years and I resolved to move on from that uncomfortable incident. Life is too short to harbor resentment. It doesn't have a place in my heart, just forgiveness. -- Moving on Toward the Sun


Dear Moving on Toward the Sun: I wouldn't take this single conversation to mean the entire 40 years of friendship was a sham and she's always harbored resentment toward you. Her husband made the joke; you just laughed at. It sounds as though he might be the one whom she's really frustrated with, but you got caught in the crossfire.

In any case, I think you should share with your wife what happened. You needn't present it as you vs. Cindy. Recount the incident, being sympathetic to Cindy in your telling, and express your concern and confusion. Perhaps your wife can help patch things over or offer some insight into Cindy's behavior; perhaps not. But she is your wife, and you shouldn't keep things from her, even though you're doing so with the best of intentions.
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[personal profile] cereta 2019-08-05 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know. Before we left AZ, spouse has some friends who I truly, truly disliked, but I just kind of sucked it up and went to my happy place. That said, one night while I was on the job market, one of them made a really arrogant, dismissive comment that showed that he had not only not listened to me, but that he wasn't even listening to spouse. I'll admit, I kind of lost it.

It's worth remembering that girls and women are heavily, heavily socialized to just smile and nod, to go along to get along. I can easily imagine a wife putting up with an obnoxious friend of her husband for a long time, only to explode over something seemingly trivial.
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[personal profile] shirou 2019-08-05 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I can imagine that too. I'm not questioning the believability of the scenario, and I'm certainly not defending anything LW did over the forty years of friendship, in part because we have no idea what that was. I just get tired of the caricature of men as insensitive cretins, and it's worth remembering that we have feelings, and most of us would indeed be shocked and hurt to have forty years of pent-up hostility flung in our faces. If LW's first reaction is to feel defensive, that isn't exactly admirable, but like Cindy blowing up, it's understandable.