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firebatvillain ([personal profile] firebatvillain) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2025-01-07 08:51 pm

I recently discovered my husband of 10 years, “Rick,” had an affair

Dear Prudence,

I recently discovered my husband of 10 years, “Rick,” had an affair—not just a fleeting moment of weakness, but an ongoing emotional and physical relationship. His affair partner, “David,” was a younger co-worker at his firm who’d deliberately tracked down my personal email and phone number to reveal every excruciating detail. The screenshots he sent revealed a connection and a depth of emotional intimacy that made my skin crawl.

When I confronted my husband, the facade crumbled instantly. He didn’t just admit to the affair; he collapsed into a sobbing mess, revealing layers of manipulation I’d never imagined. Apparently, this wasn’t a grand love story but a calculated power play. David—whom I later learned had been passed over for a significant promotion—used Rick’s professional frustrations and emotional vulnerability as a weapon. When he didn’t get the career advancement he wanted, he weaponized their entire affair, deliberately destroying our marriage as revenge against both my husband and the company.


Our social circle made this even more humiliating. I’m not the only person David told; I now find myself the topic of hushed conversations, pitying glances, and not-so-subtle gossip. The most brutal revelation came when Rick admitted he’d been contemplating leaving our marriage for months. He risked our entire shared history—our home, our combined investments, our reputation—for what amounted to a pathetic fantasy of feeling desired by a younger man.


The betrayal isn’t just the affair itself. I’m now having to completely re-evaluate the man I thought I knew better than anyone. Frankly, I’m kind of shocked that Rick was dumb enough to fall for this. David is simply too attractive to ever have been genuinely interested; Rick is a classically handsome older man, but David could probably have his pick of just about anybody. I’m insulted that Rick was so capricious about cheating on me that he fell for such an obvious con job.

Rick promises change. Therapy. Complete transparency. But I don’t trust a word he says anymore. My gut tells me to leave, but I’m honestly terrified by the prospect of single life. I count on Rick for financial and emotional support that I won’t have if I leave. I’m not sure whether I love Rick anymore, but I’m also not sure if that even matters. Maybe a loveless marriage with financial security is better than the alternative. What should I do?

—Betrayed, Bothered, and Bewildered

Dear Betrayed,

It’s understandable that this ordeal has caused you to lose trust and respect for your husband. You will both need a lot of time to parse the fallout from his mistakes, and I encourage you to enlist the help of both personal therapists and/or a couples therapist in order to do so.

That said, I would caution you against taking any drastic actions any time soon. Every cell in your body wants to hit the “eject” button and parachute out of this marriage, and understandably so—the sum total of the betrayal and public humiliation involved would make anyone want to run for cover. But you’re rushing ahead if you’re already thinking that your only options are A) a loveless marriage, or B) immediate divorce. It sounds to me like there is a lot of room for reconciliation. No, your marriage won’t go “back to normal,” but you two could use this crisis as a way to rebuild trust, if not an entirely new marriage together, over the course of several months or even years. Marriage is mostly about surviving crises together, and you can bet that even if you divorce Rick and end up with someone new, that relationship will inevitably be similarly tested in some shape or form, too.

The way you feel about Rick right now is not going to be how you feel about this ordeal forever. It sounds to me that he was the victim of some serious manipulation, and you both deserve sympathy for the damage that David wrought on your household. Even if you ride this wave and ultimately decide to part ways in a few years, I don’t think you’ll regret the attempt to work through this together. You’re about to test the bounds of your patience, compassion, and commitment to each other. It won’t be easy or pretty, but if you give reconciliation a fair shot, you both might just discover along the way your transcendent capacity for all three.

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By the way, this reddit post believes letter is a follow up to Captain Awkward #1442, which we previously discussed here: https://agonyaunt.dreamwidth.org/779121.html
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[personal profile] conuly 2025-01-08 07:15 am (UTC)(link)
I’m honestly terrified by the prospect of single life. I count on Rick for financial and emotional support that I won’t have if I leave.

What would LW do if Rick up and died? You gotta have some sort of plan for not being part of a couple, and, I don't know, like... friends? Your own personal friends, not just couple friends?
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[personal profile] cereta 2025-01-08 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Life insurance. No, seriously. My financial situation would be incredibly negatively impacted if spouse and I split, whereas it would actually improve a bit if he died. Same is true for him. It has led to some humorous comments.
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[personal profile] conuly 2025-01-08 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a lot less surprised about the need for financial support than I am about "I won't have emotional support if I leave".

This is why one person cannot be everything! You gotta have friends! Platonic friends! Why does our society devalue every other relationship?
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[personal profile] topaz_eyes 2025-01-08 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
What [personal profile] cereta said. You're not wrong, but it sounds like Rick and LW are an older couple, and LW may need Rick's work benefits that could be unaffordable otherwise if LW divorced him. Also, LW would no longer qualify as a spousal beneficiary for workplace or social security pensions should LW leave before Rick dies.

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[personal profile] movingfinger 2025-01-08 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
If they're in the US, LW's entitlement to spousal Social Security (assuming it is higher than their own) is in place until they remarry. (Not actually sure about the same sex status on that and LW needs a lawyer.) Pension entitlement/assignment, if there is a substantial pension benefit available, can be negotiated as part of a divorce settlement and so can allowance for health insurance and so on.
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Re: Reddit theory

[personal profile] minoanmiss 2025-01-08 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I spent the whole time I was reading this thinking "I've seen this before..."
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Re: Reddit theory

[personal profile] bookblather 2025-01-08 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Same. Shame "Rick" didn't take the Captain's advice; it might have been less hard on the LW that way.
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[personal profile] lethe1 2025-01-08 08:51 am (UTC)(link)
"David is simply too attractive to ever have been genuinely interested"

What a weird statement. As if very attractive people are unable to fall genuinely in love.
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[personal profile] mrissa 2025-01-08 11:44 am (UTC)(link)
I found that very strange as well. "People's assessment of their own and other people's attractiveness is exactly the same as mine, and they only genuinely care about people who are near them in my strict hierarchy" oh okay "also everyone must agree with me that my husband is not very high in that" OH OKAY.
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[personal profile] conuly 2025-01-08 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm assuming that if LW wasn't the aggrieved party they wouldn't call their own husband ugly and with no other redeeming features.
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[personal profile] topaz_eyes 2025-01-08 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
You are right, but in this case, this statement needs to be read in context of the preceding sentence: Frankly, I’m kind of shocked that Rick was dumb enough to fall for this. Rick betrayed LW, so LW will not be inclined to be charitable to David either. It's a defence mechanism.

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[personal profile] redbird 2025-01-08 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
It's fairly common for people to believe that they wouldn't have fallen for a specific con, and therefore that the person who was conned must have done something wrong and/or have something wrong with them.

In this case, the LW is hurt because his husband fell for the con, and it may be easier for him to think that Rick made a stupid mistake, than think that David is a selfish, manipulative person who decided he wanted the LW's attractive husband.
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[personal profile] melannen 2025-01-09 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
It's also not great that LW apparently genuinely does not believe that anyone would find their husband attractive, and doesn't see anything wrong with that statement. I feel like there were problems here before David.
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[personal profile] ysobel 2025-01-09 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's about 'anyone' so much as 'a young, attractive guy who could have anyone'. But yeah.

I read a reddit post a few days ago where the poster was friends with a gay guy who kept falling for online romance scams ... but it wasn't just "how do I convince him [sketchy situation] is a scam", it was "my friend is ugly and ew and he keeps getting scammed by people using really hot guy pics, how do I convince him he's so ugly that if he gets feelers from Hunky McHunkerson it's 100% a scam because did I mention he's ugly".

This has kinda a similar vibe: doesn't he realize he's ugly, attractive people aren't going to go for him by choice, so if they seem to it's obviously for nefarious purposes. Which is just sad. On multiple levels.
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[personal profile] melannen 2025-01-10 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Someday I want to see a letter that's like "Dear Papi, I have a problem. My spouse may not be conventionally attractive, and when I met them they weren't confident, but they're the hottest person I know and I tell them that every day. But now that they know how hot they are and aren't afraid to show it, people keep hitting on them, and I'm afraid I'll lose them! How do I keep them now that they know they're hot?"

But no, it's "Nobody would date my spouse if they had any other options so I don't understand how they're managing to cheat on me".
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[personal profile] michelel72 2025-01-11 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I agree that the LW doesn't think Rick is unappealing. Rick is described as "conventionally attractive" ... but "older". Some people honestly seem to believe that young-and-hot people would never be interested in anyone less young-and-hot than they are. It's certainly a gross approach, but it's not "my husband is too fugly to be solicited by anyone but me".
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[personal profile] firecat 2025-01-08 11:33 am (UTC)(link)
By the way, this reddit post believes letter is a follow up to Captain Awkward #1442

Yeah I was wondering.
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[personal profile] movingfinger 2025-01-08 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
LW needs to talk to a lawyer in their location, right away, because places handle asset splits differently but LW may well be able to get a 50-50 division no matter what the baseline is. I'm not saying, file for divorce, I'm saying, LW doesn't seem to have informed themselves about what their legal options are. If this is a same-sex couple, same advice applies, LW needs those facts.

The spouse seems to be doing a big performance, but the fact that LW heard about this from the affair partner and not the spouse isn't great. He's not a strong personality and he thinks with his dick, not great traits but apparently he also lacks introspection.

The flip side of this, which LW should reflect back on the gossips and whisperers, is that the affair partner is a monster. A total snake. "We are and were dealing with that privately and that guy was trying to blackmail my spouse. It's very upsetting and I'd like to not talk about it."

Finally, LW needs counseling ASAP and so does the spouse, indivually, as well as couples counseling. Also, spouse needs to change jobs yesterday!
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[personal profile] ioplokon 2025-01-08 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I like the advice to make the affair partner the villain for people outside the relationship; it seems like a good way to redirect the heat, whatever LW decides to do.
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[personal profile] likeaduck 2025-01-10 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay but what if none of them are real but they're a running narrative by the same author and we're waiting for the next installment in a very unusual format of serial novel?
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[personal profile] michelel72 2025-01-11 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
I don't usually join "this must be fake" speculation ... but this letter has some weird details. How, exactly, is revealing the affair to the LW and waiting for the LW to confront David (presumably privately) a revenge against the company? (Edit: And spreading rumors, yes, but only social rumors are mentioned.) The LW feels the need to call out their combined investments as one of the three key elements of shared history this placed at risk? These seem like such bizarre details to throw into a presumably-length-limited letter about a spouse's affair ... especially when staying in the marriage is painted as remaining the financially steady option.
Edited (Added the social impact.) 2025-01-11 01:21 (UTC)
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[personal profile] likeaduck 2025-01-11 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
I think what I'm actually learning from this is that maybe I want advice column fanfiction.
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[personal profile] likeaduck 2025-01-11 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
If you read the letters as being a shared narrative, I think I read the investments reference as the source of Rick's potential payoff to Ethan/David's blackmail scheme. And revealing an affair between a potentially more senior/powerful Rick and a more junior/more vulnerable Ethan/David could be damaging or at least embarrassing for the company if the power imbalance was stark enough to make it ethically questionable on Rick's part or if Rick had given David/Ethan some assurance of preferential treatment in e.g. the hiring process whose outcome triggered the revelations.