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conuly ([personal profile] conuly) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2023-09-28 12:00 pm

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Dear Care and Feeding,

My 5-year-old son, who is (like me) white, won’t stop saying the N-word. He seems to have picked it up at school from one of his Black friends. We’ve taken the usual steps, explained that this is a bad word, put him in time-out, and taken away toys and devices, but he continues to say it. We’ve never spanked our kids, but I think this warrants it. My wife disagrees. I don’t see any other options. I don’t want to spank him without my wife’s approval, but I think she is out of line here. Am I crazy?

—Don’t Want to be the Father of a Racist


Dear Don’t,

Spanking your child will not teach him not to be racist. It will teach him that physical force is the appropriate way to make yourself clear when you’re not getting through to someone any other way—it will normalize hitting. It will not change the behavior you object to, and because kids who are spanked tend to become more defiant, I can promise you that it will do more harm than good.

“The usual steps” have been of no use because none of them have addressed the issue head-on. Any sort of punishment—taking away toys or privileges, time-outs, yelling at him—will not make it clear why he should never use the word. It will only make it clear that you disapprove (a lot) of his using it. And if your hope—your assumption—is that your disapproval should be sufficient reason for him to quit it (the “because I say so” method of parenting), you are in for a long, rough stretch. Ultimately, it’ll lead to a less-than-healthy, less rewarding, and less loving relationship with your son as he grows up.

Let me add that telling your young child that the N-word is a “bad word” is meaninglessly authoritative—it’s no wonder that this strategy hasn’t worked either. Tell him why he shouldn’t use the word. Tell him that it has been used throughout history to demean, humiliate, and degrade Black people, and that even if he thinks he is using it without malevolence, any invocation of the word is an act of violence and racism. If he protests—as he likely will—that his Black friends say it, you can talk to him in an age-appropriate way about why his saying it is different from his friends who are Black saying it (in other words, this is not a conversation about reclaiming a word and taking the sting out of it—which I think would go over the head of most 5-year-olds). You might just say that it’s one thing to say something about yourself, it’s another to say it about someone else (a gross oversimplification, to be sure—and it doesn’t account for the many Black people who consider the word too repulsive to be used by anyone, ever—but it’s a place to start with a child this young).

PBS ran an interesting story on the N-word as “the atomic bomb” of racial slurs that’s worth listening to, or reading the transcript of, as you educate yourself. And I think educating yourself would be helpful here, as you take this moment as an opportunity to educate your child. (Which is always a better idea than hitting him.)

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[personal profile] lilysea 2023-09-28 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I think they will get much more mileage out of explaining that the N word hurts people

than they will out of punishment.

My mother once violently washed my mouth out with soap for saying "bloody" and it had the effect that I now swear far more than I otherwise might - and you can prise my swearwords from my cold dead hands.

Punishment can = digging heels in and doing MORE of the thing.

I would hate to see the kid become entrenched in saying the N word because he was punished :(
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[personal profile] sathari 2023-09-28 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Has it... even occurred to LW to ask the kid WHY he's so committed to continuing to use this word? Because I really do not get the sense that LW has much in the way of a theory of mind where his kid is concerned.
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[personal profile] cimorene 2023-09-28 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
This letter is a sterling example of how that particularly stupid authoritarian mindset (wrt child rearing) is more often found on the right, it's not exclusive to people who are wrong about literally everything!
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[personal profile] mrissa 2023-09-29 10:05 am (UTC)(link)
My parents did a great job of explaining how this kind of language hurt specific people I care about before I ever picked up using it, and this parent has those specific people right in front of them to explain it about. This is not "my kid goes to school in Lemmon, SD, saw this on TV, and has never met a Black person," where the empathy leap would have to be to strangers in other locations (still a good leap to make! but a bigger one!). This one is: explain how it hurts your friend. Right there. And their parents and brothers and sisters, who are also right there.