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Dear Care and Feeding,
Ever since our adult daughter was diagnosed with ADD, she’s been playing the victim of the whole world. We used to have conversations with her; she now says she doesn’t understand us when we speak to her and gets us to repeat phrases. She’ll even say, minutes after we’ve said something, that she just “processed” what we said. She has always been sensitive, but now any time we make a comment about her, suddenly it’s OK that she’s sensitive and “needs time to deal” with her hurt feelings. Every fault of hers is because of this illness, which means she has no faults: there’s an excuse for everything, including things from her childhood.
Suddenly my husband and I are villains because we disciplined bad behavior and basically parented her instead of letting her do whatever she wanted. No parent makes perfect choices all the time, but we were never cruel or unreasonable, and the parenting choices she points out are all normal ways to train children not to throw tantrums or be lazy. She also has not been a child for many years, so I don’t see the point of her being angry with us for actions we took years ago. This sort of thing comes up constantly in casual conversation, both when we’re reminiscing, and she feels the need to point out what she considers our failures, and when she gets “overwhelmed” out of nowhere and starts acting like a child. It seems that she is regressing back into the child she would have been if she’d had parents who didn’t care about her, and her hurt feelings are being enabled by the psychiatrist who diagnosed her and is treating her.
What’s most jarring is that this is coming out of nowhere. She used to be normal, but now she gets emotional like a child, or acts like she can’t do things for herself. We are tired of this new behavior and victim mindset, but anything we say about it just reinforces the idea in her head that we didn’t try to understand her “different” way of doing things. The “difference” seems to be putting all the responsibility on everyone else to follow her random demands (if we don’t, she asks us all to stop what we’re doing so she can do her ridiculous exercises to “regulate,” or she simply leaves). It’s impossible to talk to her anymore. It seems like we raised her right, but as soon as she found someone to validate her victim complex it has undone everything she’s learned. We’re at a loss, and would appreciate any advice on how to talk to her, since the way we’ve been doing it for decades is apparently unacceptable now.
—Mother of the Victim of Parenting
Dear MotVoP,
Your defensiveness about “normal ways to train [emphasis my own] children,” your (smug) certainty that you “raised her right” despite her attempts to let you know what troubles her about her childhood (about which, by the way, there is no statute of limitations), your referring to her efforts to take care of herself as “ridiculous”—and a whole host of other things I will not repeat back to you, but I urge you to reconsider—suggests to me that if anyone is “playing victim” in this relationship, it’s you. Stop talking. Start listening. If you don’t, you are going to lose your daughter altogether.
https://slate.com/human-interest/2022/09/extended-family-wedding-party.html
Ever since our adult daughter was diagnosed with ADD, she’s been playing the victim of the whole world. We used to have conversations with her; she now says she doesn’t understand us when we speak to her and gets us to repeat phrases. She’ll even say, minutes after we’ve said something, that she just “processed” what we said. She has always been sensitive, but now any time we make a comment about her, suddenly it’s OK that she’s sensitive and “needs time to deal” with her hurt feelings. Every fault of hers is because of this illness, which means she has no faults: there’s an excuse for everything, including things from her childhood.
Suddenly my husband and I are villains because we disciplined bad behavior and basically parented her instead of letting her do whatever she wanted. No parent makes perfect choices all the time, but we were never cruel or unreasonable, and the parenting choices she points out are all normal ways to train children not to throw tantrums or be lazy. She also has not been a child for many years, so I don’t see the point of her being angry with us for actions we took years ago. This sort of thing comes up constantly in casual conversation, both when we’re reminiscing, and she feels the need to point out what she considers our failures, and when she gets “overwhelmed” out of nowhere and starts acting like a child. It seems that she is regressing back into the child she would have been if she’d had parents who didn’t care about her, and her hurt feelings are being enabled by the psychiatrist who diagnosed her and is treating her.
What’s most jarring is that this is coming out of nowhere. She used to be normal, but now she gets emotional like a child, or acts like she can’t do things for herself. We are tired of this new behavior and victim mindset, but anything we say about it just reinforces the idea in her head that we didn’t try to understand her “different” way of doing things. The “difference” seems to be putting all the responsibility on everyone else to follow her random demands (if we don’t, she asks us all to stop what we’re doing so she can do her ridiculous exercises to “regulate,” or she simply leaves). It’s impossible to talk to her anymore. It seems like we raised her right, but as soon as she found someone to validate her victim complex it has undone everything she’s learned. We’re at a loss, and would appreciate any advice on how to talk to her, since the way we’ve been doing it for decades is apparently unacceptable now.
—Mother of the Victim of Parenting
Dear MotVoP,
Your defensiveness about “normal ways to train [emphasis my own] children,” your (smug) certainty that you “raised her right” despite her attempts to let you know what troubles her about her childhood (about which, by the way, there is no statute of limitations), your referring to her efforts to take care of herself as “ridiculous”—and a whole host of other things I will not repeat back to you, but I urge you to reconsider—suggests to me that if anyone is “playing victim” in this relationship, it’s you. Stop talking. Start listening. If you don’t, you are going to lose your daughter altogether.
https://slate.com/human-interest/2022/09/extended-family-wedding-party.html
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Look, I've known individuals who thought nothing was their fault; everything could be blamed on someone else or something else. If they received a diagnosis of neurodivergence, they would indeed blame everything on the neurodivergence rather than accepting responsibility for managing their actions.
Those individuals are a really small minority of people with neurodivergence, or indeed people in general.
LW's daughter may be one of those "nothing is my fault" folks. LW? Definitely one of those folks.
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Even if she is, having known people who got a new diagnosis (or changed/gained/lost religion, or discovered a new social cause, or realized they were LGBTQ+ as an adult, or or or....) there's at least even odds that this is a stage and at the end of it, a short time later, is a fully realized person who has a decent understanding of what can be blamed on ADHD and/or bad (abusive?) parenting and what can not.
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Especially given that LW is saying this is new -- if Daughter had a lifelong tendency to blame everything on someone or something else, I'd think this LW would've said so.
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Definitely agreed on LW, though. She can't even "make comments" about her daughter without her daughter having "hurt feelings"! So unjust of daughter, to have feelings.