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conuly ([personal profile] conuly) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2022-07-13 07:35 pm

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Dear Amy: I am a very active woman.

I go to the gym and do cardio and weightlifting four to five times per week.

I have done this since my late teens.

Recently a man at the gym has begun making small talk. He tells me his age, kids, marital status, etc., and has begun asking me questions and commenting on my beauty and body.

I am not interested in him, but don’t want to be rude.

I enjoy the peace my workout brings to me. For this reason, I wear earbuds to keep from being disturbed, but this has not deterred him.

He is getting worse and is constantly invading my space.

Is there a nice way to get this pest to leave me alone?

– Working Out


Dear Working Out: The way you have phrased your dilemma is the stereotypical way that women often respond to encroachment: “How can I respond to this without being rude?” “Is there a nice way to get this pest to leave me alone?”

Some people respond to non-verbal cues (leaving in your earbuds, conveying through your body language that you are not interested in conversing, etc.).

Others (such as this guy) interpret your niceness, your polite social cues, etc. as an invitation to encroach further.

Small talk might be a minor annoyance, but comments about your beauty and your body are completely inappropriate, and he needs to be shut down.

Because you say you want to be “nice,” the next time this man invades your space at the gym, you should give him the full benefit of a neutrally worded and clear response, using both your words and body-language.

Stop what you are doing. Hold up your hand as a “stop sign.” Say, “I’m here to work. I’m asking you not to approach me or try to converse with me, and I appreciate you respecting that. Thank you for understanding!”

Then you plug in your earbuds and resume your workout.

This man gets one polite notification from you. If he resumes – at all – you should take it to the manager, if necessary stating your case in writing, in case you need a record of your concerns.

https://www.arcamax.com/healthandspirit/lifeadvice/askamy/s-2695845?fs
cereta: (frog will rule)

[personal profile] cereta 2022-07-14 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I dunno. I'm a hopeless optimist, but I work with a lot of young women, and am raising one, and they seem a lot more willing to be direct, if still courteous. Sometimes a womanperson just needs permission from someone, anyone, to assert themselves. I could be wrong, though.

Dammit.
tielan: (don't make me shoot you)

[personal profile] tielan 2022-07-14 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
1. There is no nice way. You will have to be "a raging bitch" and actually use the words "I'm not interested in you, I am just here to workout, please go away".

2. Talk to the manager. Now. Don't tell the guy you're going to do it or give him a warning/heads' up. Just talk to the manager or one of the staff you can trust straight up, straight off. Have witnesses you can trust, and have them keep an eye out for you. Do it NOW. Do it before you tell this guy 'no'.

Maybe he's nice. But maybe he's not. You won't know until you turn him down flat, and at that point, it's too late.
dine: (dine4 - misbegotten)

[personal profile] dine 2022-07-14 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
yes, most sincerely this!
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[personal profile] naath 2022-07-14 09:02 am (UTC)(link)
If what you say has no swears and a please, and comes without violence then IT IS POLITE; if this he will interpret any 'no' as rude then... that's his problem.
minoanmiss: A detail of the Ladies in Blue fresco (Default)

[personal profile] minoanmiss 2022-07-14 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
*hands LW a spray bottle full of rubbing alcohol*