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masquerading as a man with a reason ([personal profile] ysobel) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2022-03-20 05:30 pm
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Carolyn Hax: Productivity update

Original letter https://agonyaunt.dreamwidth.org/458046.html

Dear Carolyn live Q&A: Overly "Productive" No More

Hi Carolyn - I'm the lawyer-husband who wrote in twice in 2020, first to complain that my wife wasn't "productive" enough in connection with personal pursuits during the pandemic, and then to update you that after a brief stint of marriage counseling we decided to divorce. As my original question was re-run in the column this past week, I wanted to offer a further update.

First of all, WOW, I was such a glassbowl back then and all the critical comments - from you and from readers - were 100% deserved. As it turns out, fate intervened - shortly after my wife and I decided to divorce, my parents both contracted Covid and ended up passing away. We had a somewhat strained relationship, but it was still a time of extreme grief and regret, especially as (due to this being pre-vaccines) I was not able to visit with them as they were declining, nor were we able to have much in the way of memorial services.

Despite the way I had treated her, my wife was completely there for me with unconditional support, and I asked her to reconsider the divorce - she agreed, but only if I promised to complete a course of individual therapy to figure out why I had been acting so mean and judgmental. We uncovered a lot of issues from my childhood - notably that my parents equated not being the "best" with worthlessness. Even more so, they believed that life was something to be suffered through with grim determination, and that enjoying oneself was almost always inappropriate. For example, when I was 12 I woke up one day to find my beloved piano had been sold; because I was "having too much fun and treating it like a toy." Similarly, I was forced to switch from soccer to track in high school because I wasn't good enough at soccer to be a starter, even though I loved being part of the team. This all resulted in my being incredibly critical (and also jealous) of people who could simply find joy in things (hence my treatment of my wife), as well as a tendency to pursue activities I didn't even like that much due to a fear that I would otherwise be "bad."

Intensive therapy helped immensely. Over the course of the next year, I repaired the relationship with my wife (an infinitely kind and forgiving person) and even got my career unstuck by switching to a different practice area that excites and energizes me. I will certainly be making amends for years to come, but actually feel happy and hopeful now. I am just sorry I wasted so many years and caused so much pain in the process.


I am weeping. What a horrific form of abuse you suffered. I have seen it before but not that intensely--mostly parents who feel it's their job to "toughen up" their kids and show them, "Life is hard, get used to it," instead of trusting that life will do that on its own and therefore a loving and supportive home is all they need to provide.

So, wow. And thank you for this update, and I am -so- glad you're in a better place now.

And credit where due, if you don't mind my co-opting my reply to you to give it: šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘ to the person in the original chat who wrote this:

"I suspect Productive doesn’t particularly like himself, either. That’s the toxicity of the cult of productivity. It convinces us we’re worthless if we’re not constantly checking items off a to-do list."

Thanks again, and be well.
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[personal profile] conuly 2022-03-21 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, I did not expect this sort of update. Unlike the first time around, this time I hope it's true.
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[personal profile] lemonsharks 2022-03-21 01:22 am (UTC)(link)

Saaaaaame

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[personal profile] shirou 2022-03-21 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Well, that certainly is an interesting update⁠—thanks for posting it. It strikes me that LW's wife is not only kind and patient but also perceptive for seeing LW's good qualities beneath his meanness and what he needed to unearth them.
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[personal profile] cereta 2022-03-21 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I hope this is true!
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[personal profile] minoanmiss 2022-03-21 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
Oh plesse be true. I want to believe!

If so, LW, here is a star for your hard work (dealing with childhood abuse is so hard) and your wife's loving kindness!
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[personal profile] conuly 2022-03-21 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
Also, I hope LW takes up piano again or another hobby he enjoys.
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[personal profile] green_grrl 2022-03-21 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
Absolutely the best kind of update!

I know it was a horrible time, being on the brink of divorce and his parents dying… but. I have often seen that when controlling parents die, the adult children can be freed in ways they never knew possible. No one to actually yell if you don’t live up to expectations! As long as you can free yourself from internalized messaging.
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[personal profile] swingandswirl 2022-03-21 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
Oh wow! I did NOT see this coming. I really hope it's true, and I hope that LW continues on the path he's on, and that things work out for him and his wife.

Also, some people should NOT be parents, Jesus Christ.
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[personal profile] blueinkedfrost 2022-03-21 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
I've got some dust in my eyes. I hope the letter and update are real! Shame on the MIL/FIL for treating their child like that.
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[personal profile] castiron 2022-03-21 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope this update is real, and if it is real, I hope LW gets a piano soon.
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[personal profile] tielan 2022-03-22 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Something in my eye.

*sniffles*