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melannen ([personal profile] melannen) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2021-05-12 04:24 pm

Ask Amy: Wife with no name resists erasure

Dear Amy: My husband, “Calvin” and I have been together for 18 years. We’ve been married for two years. In most ways we get along great. We have many things in common, and enjoy each other’s company.

One thing that has continually bothered me is that Calvin never uses my first name! Mostly he addresses me as nothing, or sometimes as “Honey.” He used to whistle or snap his fingers when he wanted my attention, until I pointed out that I was not a dog, and he stopped.

I have a perfectly normal name, which I am fond of!

I have tried on several occasions to talk to him about it. I asked if he doesn’t like my name, or if my name reminds him of someone he dislikes. He weasels out of the conversation every time I bring it up.

He offers no explanation for why he refuses to use my name. I have asked him to use my name, at least sometimes but he only tried it once.

Why would someone do this? Does it show a lack of respect toward me? Should I give up the struggle since it’s been going on for 18 years? I just don’t get it.

– Not Nameless Wife

Dear Not Nameless: I don’t get it, either. But I also don’t get how you could be with someone for 16 years – and then marry him – if he refused to use your name.

I’m imagining your wedding vows: “I take you …. over there … to be my lawfully wedded wife.” And how does he introduce you to others? (“Mom, Dad, I’d like you to meet my girlfriend, Honey.”

How would he verbally identify you to an ambulance driver or a physician in case of an emergency?

Your husband has proven that he can respond successfully to negative reactions. When he snapped his fingers or whistled at you (wow, how disrespectful is that?) and you pointed out that this was unacceptable, he stopped.

His behavior does show a lack of respect: It is passive-aggressive and quite literally denies your existence as an individual with a specific name. To me, this seems like something of an erasure.

When human beings choose partners, it is affirmative and loving to find large and small ways to respect a partner’s preferences, thereby removing little triggers that might make them feel less-than. I assume you have done this for your partner over the years; he has not.

I suggest that you stop trying to understand this, and insist that he call you by name. Give him positive reinforcement when he does, and don’t respond when he doesn’t. (And, please, if he calls you “nothing,” then your response should also be nothing.)

If that doesn’t work and you want to stay with him (you obviously do), then, yes, accept it, and hope that he can manage to identify you correctly in an emergency.
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[personal profile] watersword 2021-05-12 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
4. What do you think are the odds that he has more than one wife/girlfriend and he does this with all of them to reduce the risk of slipping up and using the wrong name?

This is absolutely where my mind went as well, along with the accompanying scene in the murder mystery where the double life is revealed, complete with identical duplicate houses, wardrobes, etc.
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[personal profile] conuly 2021-05-13 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
Trufax, that's what happened to my aunt. Well, not the murder, but after her father died they found out he had a whole second family. Something like 15 kids between the two of them, and apparently after that dust settled she speaks to some of her half-siblings more often than some of her full ones.
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[personal profile] movingfinger 2021-05-14 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
"4. What do you think are the odds that he has more than one wife/girlfriend and he does this with all of them to reduce the risk of slipping up and using the wrong name?"

Suzanne Vega agrees!

"Each time your sweetie calls you dear, maybe you should wonder:
Are they just trying to avoid a social blunder?"
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[personal profile] cereta 2021-05-12 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
On the one hand, spouse and I very seldom address each other by name, and usually only when we're trying extra hard to get the other's attention. We mostly use "sweetie" or "hon," although both have gotten a little more complicated since the Teenager first entered our lives (we also often refer to her by pet names, my usual being "angel face").

HOWEVER,and this is a big however, this is a situation that we're all fine with. LW clearly is not. That, to me at least, is the core issue. She has asked him to so something, something relatively easy to do. He has not done so. That's a dealbreaker.
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[personal profile] purlewe 2021-05-12 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS.

If you want to be called by a certain name and the person you love refuses to do it that is a HUGE dealbreaker.
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[personal profile] ashbet 2021-05-13 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
I am 100% a “love, sugar, honey, baby, [ridiculous nickname]” person — I often address my adult daughter as “Hey, Pod” — but I would 100% use only my partner’s name to address them if they strongly preferred it and asked me to.

This dude is being shitty and passive-aggressive, if the LW has been even half as clear about expressing her wishes as she has been here.
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[personal profile] purlewe 2021-05-13 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah my wife and I call each other by nicknames often. But we also call each other but our actual names. As well as use each others actual names when talking to others. (not something she mentioned but I wonder about that as well. does he not use her name when referring to her to others?)

I like how you phrased "if LW has been even half as clear about expressing her wishes" bc if my wife expressed something similar I would be bending over backward to correct a slight if she felt it.
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[personal profile] ashbet 2021-05-13 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG, yes, I absolutely introduce and refer to my partners and daughter by name, I can't even imagine "And this is my wife. [silence]"

(That reminds me of the whole "This is my wife, Mrs. Manslastname" thing, or even worse, "Mrs. John Manslastname." I am Not A Fan of that tradition/construction.)

*eyetwitch*
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[personal profile] korafox 2021-05-13 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Indeed--I can't think of the last time Husband addressed me using my name (or vice versa). It is "sweetie" all around in our household. It would feel really weird to actually call him by his name.

But, y'know, I'm not an "I love you" person either and I figured out how to do that because it was important to my partner. :/
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[personal profile] shirou 2021-05-13 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
My wife calls me "sweetie," and I call her "lieverd," which is basically the same in Dutch. We rarely use names. We also do not whistle or snap (!) at one another.
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[personal profile] dorothean 2021-05-12 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I am very bad at remembering people’s names and also at small talk and other conversational conventions, so I (think I) address people by their names in conversation far less frequently than is normal.

But!!! I call my husband by his name all the time, because I know his name really well and I love him and it makes me happy to say it!—a happiness emphasized by how not awkward I feel about saying his name compared with saying nearly all other human beings’ names.

I don’t get this fellow at all.
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[personal profile] starfleetbrat 2021-05-13 06:57 am (UTC)(link)
This almost sounds like something psychological. Like, I am no expert at all. But sometimes people have trouble saying someone's name out loud due to trauma. So I wonder if there is something here that LW doesn't know about or perhaps, as if often the case with these letters, is leaving out.
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[personal profile] jadelennox 2021-05-14 02:14 am (UTC)(link)

Obviously he knows that the third time he says her name, the curse will be enacted and she'll be whisked away to the underworld. He's just trying to protect her!

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[personal profile] swingandswirl 2021-05-20 10:56 am (UTC)(link)
Hello, Whole Man Disposal Services? I'd like to schedule a pickup...

Seriously, what the hell?!

(I would recommend she turn it around on him and snap or whistle when she wants his attention, but I'm not nice...)