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conuly ([personal profile] conuly) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2020-06-07 01:49 am

I can't even with this LW

Dear Amy: An old school friend of mine posts often on Facebook. Her updates are mostly upbeat, entertaining, and harmless.

Over a decade ago, both her brother and her father died of unexpected illnesses. A sad situation, of course. Her mother and one remaining sibling are still alive, and they are close.

However, all these years later, she posts about her father and brother on FB regularly, noting, "Today would have been H’s 55th birthday. I can't believe he's gone..." accompanied by pictures, including (depressingly) photos of him in the hospital. Or: "Today marks 10 years since Dad started his treatment -- greatest Dad ever." Again, sad and depressing photos.

She always gets lots of sympathetic reactions to these posts.

Amy, it is exhausting and inappropriate to see these online pity parties of hers. Everyone suffers loss. But no one else I know insists on getting attention for those losses, especially monthly (or more!), so many years after they happened. For everyone else but her, it seems, grief is NOT to be flogged online for everyone else to see.

She is a successful person with a great family and a full life. Her grief over her loss is no more important, or tragic, than the losses we have ALL endured, and yet, continue she does -- and it makes me angry every time.

How can I let her know how utterly inappropriate these posts are?

Grieved-Out


Dear Grieved Out: Facebook’s algorithm kicks into gear each day to remind users of items they originally posted about years ago. If her family members entered the hospital, had a birthday, or passed away and she posted about it then (she obviously did), Facebook will remind her of these events now. She is being regularly triggered, and then she is choosing to share.

I happen to agree with you regarding what feel like beseeching entreaties for virtual hugs on social media.

But – guess what? – other people don’t feel that way. And the true beauty of the freedom of expression that social media platforms offer is this: people can say whatever they want. That includes you.

You seem to want to inspire this person to change her behavior, through some magical statement you might compose. But – if you did that, and she wasn’t too wounded to respond, she might well say (to you): “If you don’t like what I post, then don’t ‘follow’ me!”

If you do choose to admonish her, do so via private message. Be aware, however, that she could then choose to post your statement, inspiring another round of “hugs.”

https://www.arcamax.com/healthandspirit/lifeadvice/askamy/s-2369685?fs
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[personal profile] mirlacca 2020-06-09 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly this. Who the hell does the LW think she is? It's not HER FB account!
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[personal profile] minoanmiss 2020-06-07 06:19 am (UTC)(link)
... wow. And also SHEESH.
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[personal profile] delight 2020-06-07 06:56 am (UTC)(link)
No, F this, I celebrate my dad on his day (he died on his birthday so it is just one day) every year and I always will. Can it, LW
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[personal profile] cereta 2020-06-07 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Same. It'll be 40 years this year. I still get sad about it.
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[personal profile] wyomingnot 2020-06-07 08:08 am (UTC)(link)
...not even an attempted "I'm worried about my friend" in there. Suck it, LW. Learn how to manage your consumption.

Surely fb has some kind of keyword filtering she could use if she doesn't want to outright mute/unfollow.
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[personal profile] ashbet 2020-06-07 08:51 am (UTC)(link)
This one gets a Hax WOW.

<— doesn’t post about lost loved ones FREQUENTLY, but would drop a “friend” who told me that my sincere grief or sharing a memory of someone I miss is “inappropriate.”

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[personal profile] minoanmiss 2020-06-07 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't drop that friend. Throw them with great force.
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[personal profile] fred_mouse 2020-06-08 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)
dropping from a great height is easier.
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[personal profile] minoanmiss 2020-06-08 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Good point. And then you can watch them bounce!
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[personal profile] mirlacca 2020-06-09 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Sometimes I really wish DW had a "like" feature!
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[personal profile] cimorene 2020-06-07 01:25 pm (UTC)(link)
This is an appallingly bad person but I can't help laughing at how little self-awareness they had to have to maintain a veneer of self-righteousness and actually send this letter.
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[personal profile] watersword 2020-06-07 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)

I am feel uncomfortable when we are not about me?

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[personal profile] jadelennox 2020-06-07 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
this is a correct response.
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[personal profile] lilysea 2020-06-07 02:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Dear LW,

You can unfollow someone on Facebook without unfriending them. Maybe consider this?
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[personal profile] green_grrl 2020-06-07 03:23 pm (UTC)(link)
There was one comment on this that was so true. Something like, this question includes two things advice columnists are always getting and the advice is always the same.
1) How can I change this person? You can’t.
2) This person posts on Facebook... Unfriend/unfollow.

There’s a third one I always see: This person does a thing I don’t like. Or, How do I find out what this person thinks/feels? People aren’t psychic. Use your words.

These three answers handle so many submissions, columnists should just post them at the top of their page!

There’s another common category of submission, people who’ve been emotionally abused and gaslit. Those questioners I give full empathy for needing to write in. It’s too easy to get totally turned around and confused about what’s normal, and to need someone outside the situation to say, “That’s not right. You should get out.”
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[personal profile] shirou 2020-06-07 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I get how seeing monthly grief posts for years would get tiresome, but imagine thinking it's incumbent on the other person to please you instead of just unfollowing them. What gall.
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[personal profile] kelly_holden 2020-06-08 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
And like, I've heard that constant exposure to other people's rose-coloured filters can lead to the belief that everyone else is happier and more successful than you, which is bad for the mental health
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[personal profile] jadelennox 2020-06-07 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
The worst thing with friends, after I lost my dad and my sister, was discovering how uncomfortable people got whenever I mentioned them. Like, dude, they're my family. They're in all my stories. I talk about my living family all the time -- if I expunge my dead loved ones from my stories it feels like they're dying again.

Not to mention, my reactions to their deaths shaped multiple years of my life. Obviously! What, is every event that happened during the year I spent gutted over my dead sister a taboo topic for you now, so-called friend?

Dear LW, you can mute people on Facebook. Do it. And then go soak your head, you selfish, insensitive, clod.
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[personal profile] ashbet 2020-06-07 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I don’t talk about my late father or late ex-husband (we were very close friends from ages 17-42, and together for 12 of those years) all the time, but I certainly bring them up in stories at times.

Like you said, censoring the very existence of people I loved and lost would feel like losing them again, as well as the parts of my life that I shared with them.

(I will occasionally post something emotional about missing them if something specific has it on my mind — especially K, my ex, who died suddenly and young a couple of years ago — but I’m certainly not doing so for “attention” or “hugs,” just being honest that they are in my thoughts.)

I’m so sorry about your Dad and sister :(
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[personal profile] likeaduck 2020-06-08 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE'S GETTING SOMETHING YOU'RE NOT DOESN'T MEAN SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING WRONG.

WHY DID NOBODY TEACH YOU THIS IN KINDERGARTEN?
Edited 2020-06-08 01:22 (UTC)
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[personal profile] frenzy 2020-06-08 12:50 pm (UTC)(link)
The LW probably hasnt lost someone close to them, or if they have they have bottled it up so much. You dont just GET OVER a close loved ones death. you feel it constantly forever. you just learn to deal with the sadness.

man this letter pisses me off SO MUCH.