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conuly ([personal profile] conuly) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2019-10-28 02:18 am

Mom Struggles To Support Daughter Making A Mistake

DEAR ABBY: My 20-year-old daughter has been dating a wonderful young man for two years. He's 21, almost 22. He treats her exceptionally well.

She has decided on a whim that she has an itch to know what it's like to be with other people! (They were each other's first everything.) I do understand that thought or itch, but I don't feel it NEEDS to be acted upon.

When she told him, it broke his heart. When I asked him if he was OK, he responded, No, but I will be. I just want her to be happy. It brought tears to my eyes. He's such a wonderful young man.

My daughter has no idea what a huge mistake she's making. Of course I want to support her no matter what, but I feel her actions are mean and selfish. How do I convey this to her but also be supportive? -- EMOTIONAL MOM IN BALTIMORE


DEAR MOM: It is better that the boyfriend knows your daughter's true feelings. Having said what she did has freed him to move on.

Tell her you are glad she confided in you, you think she had a solid gold winner in the young man she has been with for the last two years, and you will always be there to emotionally support her if she needs it. That's all you can do at this point.

https://www.arcamax.com/healthandspirit/lifeadvice/dearabby/s-2287485
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[personal profile] kiezh 2019-10-28 08:51 am (UTC)(link)
LW, what is your argument here, exactly? Your daughter should stay in a relationship she doesn't want to be in because...? Because he's a good man and treats her well, and a woman should be willing to sacrifice her desires and dreams to keep a Good Man if she's been lucky enough to catch one? (Would he even want to be kept, on those terms? "I will accept your love and devotion with grim resignation, in the belief that I can't do any better.")

No list of splendid virtues, no shining glorious beacon of Possible Son-in-Lawhood, can or should override her "I don't want to." He apparently can grasp that; you, LW, seem to have problems with it.

Also, it's interesting how this letter minimizes and dismisses the daughter's feelings (whim, itch, mistake) while describing the young man as heartbroken and bringing up LW's tears over the end of a relationship in which she was not a participant. Who is framed as having valid feelings and thoughtful decisions, here? Not LW's daughter, who "has no idea what a huge mistake she's making."

You don't think her feelings NEED to be acted on, LW? Maybe that's not your call. You think she's selfish for breaking up with someone she doesn't want to date anymore? Guess what, that is an area of decisionmaking in which it is entirely appropriate to be selfish and prioritize one's own feelings. (Wasn't it Dear Sugar who had the refrain "wanting to leave is enough"?)

How to be supportive? Stop trying to control your daughter's love life. It's hers to build, break, rebuild, fold, spindle, or mutilate. She's the only one who can decide what risks she's willing to take, and what regrets she doesn't want to have.

(Also if you've been thinking of this young man as quasi-family for years and are afraid of him disappearing from your life... you could actually just try to be his friend? Your relationship with him as a person you like and admire doesn't have to be triangulated through your daughter, and it doesn't seem like the breakup was acrimonious and requiring the taking of sides.)
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[personal profile] eva_rosen 2019-10-28 12:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup, the mom should totally Mrs Robinson that thing XD. ITOH, the way she phrased it made me think the daughter didn't break up with the guy and just took a break to 'know what being with other people is like', so it could be a bit awkward if she did. And, of course, unless she suspects her daughter to be in an abusive relationship, she should stay out of her romantic life, woman's 21, mom.
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[personal profile] cereta 2019-10-28 12:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Well. Somebody has regrets and is trying to resolve them through their daughter's relationships.
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[personal profile] welcomingsong 2019-10-28 01:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the letter writer has missed the fact that two people can be completely awesome and yet not be a good match for one another.
Edited 2019-10-28 13:25 (UTC)
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[personal profile] jadelennox 2019-10-28 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
or that just because you are a good match for each other doesn't mean you need to stay together.
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[personal profile] jadelennox 2019-10-28 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Dear LW, please read To All The Boys I've Loved Before. Realize you are behaving like the 16-year-old protagonist of a YA novel. Read the rest of the series, because it is good, and because it will distract you from getting involved in your daughter's life.
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[personal profile] cadenzamuse 2019-10-30 01:07 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS IS BRILLIANT
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[personal profile] lavendertook 2019-10-28 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh LW, get the hella out of your daughter's love life! Good for her for knowing she hasn't seen enough of the world or relationships yet to make a commitment at 20 and to be honest about it with her bf. There's nothing mean about that, and certainly nothing selfish about being honest when that honesty could result in loss--be glad you raised her right that way. You are not her, so you do not know what she NEEDS as well as she does.

Last I checked, it was the 21st century, when we encourage a woman to know her own mind and decide on her own what kind of life she wants, whether she wants to be in a relationship, what kind of relationship(s), or none at all. You should not make the mistake of making her think her happiness depends on finding the right man and sticking to him like glue--unmixed, unfinished, gooey, globby glue. Maybe she's still figuring out her sexuality--don't faint, LW! Maybe she's still figuring out a lot of things about herself that would make no person the right person for her right now to commit to when she has a lot of growing to make on her own. So just because you want to tell her she is making a mistake in not staying with this guy you think is so great, you do not NEED to, and you shouldn't. But it will make her life a happier one if she knows she has a mom who respects her choices and is rooting for her no matter what and will be there for her through all her growing and changing.

LW needs a group like agonyaunt where she can be opinionated as she wants to be about other people's lives, and as opinionated as she wants to be about the opinions of others about those other people's lives, and do no harm to those people because they will never, ever, ever, ever know. I really hope LW has not been making it known to her daughter how lightly she values her honesty and courage to strike out on her own without towing someone else 's heart around for a safety net, because then it may not be only the bf that her daughter will need to shed.
Edited 2019-10-28 23:21 (UTC)