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Guest banned after offering helpful hints to hostess
Dear Carolyn:
"Becky" and I stayed with my brother, "Dan," and his wife, "Mae." Becky and I are recently married and this was her first stay at my brother's place.
Later she texted Mae a thank-you along with some helpful hints about some slight hosting deficiencies -- nothing too bad, just that the guest room mattress needs to be replaced, the drain in the bathtub is slow, and that a lot of people can't eat carb-heavy meals first thing in the morning. Becky would sincerely welcome if someone did this for her and thought she was doing Mae a favor.
Mae is livid and has banned us from visiting. I wish Becky had checked with me before sending the text, but Mae is really overreacting. We were really good guests -- we only stayed three days, took everyone out to meals, did all the cleanup after a big meal, and always cleaned up after ourselves, so this was a minor annoyance at best.
I said so to Dan when I was explaining that Becky meant no harm, and now he's mad at me, too. My mom lives with my brother and has asked me to mend fences so Becky and I are welcome to stay there again. Where do I start fixing this mess?
-- Banned
Becky starts fixing it with an abject and sincere apology. Wow.
And then you hope really hard that it's enough.
Mae is overreacting maybe a little -- in her place, I wouldn't have banned you (out of love for Dan) -- but for you to suggest this says you still don't get it, how awful it was to send that critique. And just to Mae, not Dan, like she's the mistress of mattresses! Ugh ugh ugh.
Seriously. Maybe Becky would "sincerely welcome" the same, but that puts her among the thickest-skinned people on earth. That, or it's just theoretical and she has never in fact received an itemized list of her hostly deficiencies that her male co-host did not.
I don't know how else to say this to you. Becky just drove a spike into the hull of your relationship with your family, and you and she both need to admit that out loud to your whole family and then start bailing as fast as you can.
This is "adapted from an online discussion" so you can see more responses here: https://www.arcamax.com/healthandspirit/lifeadvice/carolynhax/s-2269999?fs
"Becky" and I stayed with my brother, "Dan," and his wife, "Mae." Becky and I are recently married and this was her first stay at my brother's place.
Later she texted Mae a thank-you along with some helpful hints about some slight hosting deficiencies -- nothing too bad, just that the guest room mattress needs to be replaced, the drain in the bathtub is slow, and that a lot of people can't eat carb-heavy meals first thing in the morning. Becky would sincerely welcome if someone did this for her and thought she was doing Mae a favor.
Mae is livid and has banned us from visiting. I wish Becky had checked with me before sending the text, but Mae is really overreacting. We were really good guests -- we only stayed three days, took everyone out to meals, did all the cleanup after a big meal, and always cleaned up after ourselves, so this was a minor annoyance at best.
I said so to Dan when I was explaining that Becky meant no harm, and now he's mad at me, too. My mom lives with my brother and has asked me to mend fences so Becky and I are welcome to stay there again. Where do I start fixing this mess?
-- Banned
Becky starts fixing it with an abject and sincere apology. Wow.
And then you hope really hard that it's enough.
Mae is overreacting maybe a little -- in her place, I wouldn't have banned you (out of love for Dan) -- but for you to suggest this says you still don't get it, how awful it was to send that critique. And just to Mae, not Dan, like she's the mistress of mattresses! Ugh ugh ugh.
Seriously. Maybe Becky would "sincerely welcome" the same, but that puts her among the thickest-skinned people on earth. That, or it's just theoretical and she has never in fact received an itemized list of her hostly deficiencies that her male co-host did not.
I don't know how else to say this to you. Becky just drove a spike into the hull of your relationship with your family, and you and she both need to admit that out loud to your whole family and then start bailing as fast as you can.
This is "adapted from an online discussion" so you can see more responses here: https://www.arcamax.com/healthandspirit/lifeadvice/carolynhax/s-2269999?fs
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I've complained about a friends mattress one time, and one time only - when the mattress was so bad that I was hobbling in absolute agony for the entire visit, barely able to walk around the house or to stand up from a seated position.
It was a very very thin, very very soft mattress and the metal bars of the bed frame dug agonizingly into your body through the mattress waking you every two hours from pain.
And that wasn't "I demand you buy a new mattress"
it was "Just so you know, if you have any more house guests with any pre existing lower back pain at all, that mattress will SEVERELY aggravate it"
and then letting them do whatever they wanted with the information, whether that was to warn people ahead of time, or buy a new mattress, or whatever.