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shreena ([personal profile] shreena) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2014-09-03 09:57 am

Tattooed gals ruining it for the rest of us!

DEAR ABBY: I recently went on a first (and last) date with a "gentleman." He ordered himself a beer and a prime rib dinner. He never asked me if I wanted anything to eat or drink.

As flabbergasted as I was, I have a theory: Men today are different from those of the past, and my guess it's because the pierced and tattooed gals today speak and act like sailors, therefore ruining it for the rest of us. Am I right? -- PUZZLED IN FLORIDA

DEAR PUZZLED: No. You need to speak up! The rules of dating have changed over the last decades. Many women expect -- and prefer -- to pay for their own meal and drinks on a first date. It has nothing to do with whether they are tattooed or use four-letter words. They like their independence, and sometimes earn more than their dates do.

http://www.uexpress.com/dearabby/2013/12/16/widower-dreading-christmas-will-feel-better

How surreal!
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[personal profile] rymenhild 2014-09-03 11:48 am (UTC)(link)
In other words, chivalry is dead because women don't deserve it, and women are destroying the patriarchy. That's terrific, as far as I'm concerned. I'm sorry about the writer's ridiculous date, though.
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[personal profile] cereta 2014-09-03 12:58 pm (UTC)(link)
It sounds to me like she was expecting him to order for her (ask what she wanted and tell the server), a very, VERY outdated practice. Because otherwise, I can't figure out how, if this was actually a date, he was supposed to ask her. I can't imagine a server taking an order from one person at the table and not asking the other what she wants.

The fact that she uses the word "gals" and speaks as she does of tattoos makes me think she's probably older, and I'd bet has been out of the dating pool for a while.
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[personal profile] rymenhild 2014-09-03 01:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, my! I see the problem. Use your words, Puzzled.
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[personal profile] azurelunatic 2014-09-04 08:44 am (UTC)(link)
*eyes location* Possibly retired and widowed, even?
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[personal profile] cereta 2014-09-04 01:11 pm (UTC)(link)
That was my thought, yeah.
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[personal profile] minoanmiss 2014-09-03 03:52 pm (UTC)(link)
WTFF? Has she been frozen by HYDRA for the last few decades or something? She sounds not even terribly old-fashioned, but downright parodic of what's supposed to be old-fashioned.

(That said, I can't imagine sitting with a dinner companion and not asking them, "Do you want to order?" when the server arrives. But still, the leap from "bad date" to "tattooed women are ruining society" is an astonishingly nonsensical one.)

Edited 2014-09-03 16:11 (UTC)
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[personal profile] sathari 2014-09-04 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
OH. EM. EFF. GEE.

Point the first: I agree completely with [personal profile] minoanmiss's comment.

Point the second: I am so, so, so glad, nay proud, that my tattooed, pierced, strong-willed self has helped to make the world safe for us ladypeople to do things like order our own meals in a restaurant, rather than requiring a Big Strong Manly Man of Manly Manfulness and Masculinity to undertake such terrifying and dreadful tasks as speaking to a waiter for us.